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I know what your thinking about the question, but hear me out.

 

I'm saving for my gaming rig at the moment. I estimate by March 2021 I will have £650

 

I wanna build a good system that can run lots of games at high FPS and also be good for video editing. 

 

I found a refurbished RTX 2070 on eBay, the current bid is for £60 and I reckon that the highest it will get is around £110 which I am willing to spend. The other £140 I would distribute around my components maybe getting a better motherboard. Not that my chosen board is bad or anything.

 

The other option is to wait until March and see if I can get something like an RTX 2080 or possibly RTX 2080 ti really cheap at like £250.

 

What do you guys think I should do?

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CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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March is too far away to justify purchasing anything.

 

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what do you have now? No rig at all?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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The new cards haven't even been benchmarked or anything yet and the 2070s and above I've seen sell have all been above $300 USD. I doubt it will actually go for the price you are guessing, it's at £60 right now but there is still likely a few days left on the auction and it will 100% go up and I'm almost certain it will go above £110, easiest way to see how much it will likely sell for is to filter by sold Items and average the prices out. Until we see benchmarks of the 30 series this is all speculation. In my opinion and depending on the real world performance of the 3070 I doubt the 2080ti will sell for less than $450 if anything it will sell for more if there are stock issues and or price inflations of the 30 series cards, which the theory is right now there will be at least for the first few months. If that card actually goes for £110(lol) then pick it up that's a steal, if it doesn't don't even bother until you're actually ready to build the rig, by march the cheaper 30 series cards could be out.

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3 minutes ago, GhostRoadieBL said:

are you running 1080p? 

 

Planning to yes.

 

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what do you have now? No rig at all?

I have a computer, I can't run games. I has an I7-4700 non K, 24gb ddr3 1600 ram, and two 256gb SATA SSDs aswell as a 1tb HDD 7200rpm.

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CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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21 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

I have a computer, I can't run games. I has an I7-4700 non K, 24gb ddr3 1600 ram, and two 256gb SATA SSDs aswell as a 1tb HDD 7200rpm.

yes you can. what are your expectations to run games? full 4k 120fps all high? never. not many systems can do this. ANY system can game. heck my old dell xps with a intel core duo, gt 9800 sli could game. just tone down expectations and settings and you will be fine. just throw in a gpu

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didnt realize he had no gpu

PC specs:

Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.3-4.4 GHz

Corsair H100i platinum

32 GB Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34

RTX 2060

MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi

NZXT H510

Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

2 TB WD hard drive

Corsair RM 750 Watt

ASUS ROG PG248Q 

Razer Ornata Chroma

Razer Firefly 

Razer Deathadder 2013

Logitech G935 Wireless

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1 minute ago, eeeee1 said:

yes you can. what are your expectations to run games? full 4k 120fps all high? never. not many systems can do this. ANY system can game. heck my old dell xps with a intel core duo, gt 9800 sli could game. just tone down expectations and settings and you will be fine

I couldn't play rocket league even at the lowest settings on it.

 

Plus want a new rig. I'm tired of waiting forever in premiere whilst it renders the timeline and the playing it back.

 

 

27 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The new cards haven't even been benchmarked or anything yet and the 2070s and above I've seen sell have all been above $300 USD. I doubt it will actually go for the price you are guessing, it's at £60 right now but there is still likely a few days left on the auction and it will 100% go up and I'm almost certain it will go above £110, easiest way to see how much it will likely sell for is to filter by sold Items and average the prices out. Until we see benchmarks of the 30 series this is all speculation. In my opinion and depending on the real world performance of the 3070 I doubt the 2080ti will sell for less than $450 if anything it will sell for more if there are stock issues and or price inflations of the 30 series cards, which the theory is right now there will be at least for the first few months. If that card actually goes for £110(lol) then pick it up that's a steal, if it doesn't don't even bother until you're actually ready to build the rig, by march the cheaper 30 series cards could be out.

Yes the RTX 2070s is going for $300+ but remember I live in England and things are slightly cheaper. Also that's now in a few month prices could drop significantly.

 

I think I'm gonna see how much that board goes up to, and if I can afford it, I will bid.

 

47 minutes ago, Slottr said:

March is too far away to justify purchasing anything.

 

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Why did you remove link, did it go against rules?

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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2 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

Why did you remove link, did it go against rules?

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@CloudPC

The 2070 will be great for high fps 1080p, most benchmarks are min 60-70fps for games like forza horizon 4 and more often 100fps+ with maxed settings. Games like rocket league I often top over 200fps with my 2070 (with an r5 3600x) this would be a great upgrade to get started updating your rig

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8 minutes ago, GhostRoadieBL said:

@CloudPC

The 2070 will be great for high fps 1080p, most benchmarks are min 60-70fps for games like forza horizon 4 and more often 100fps+ with maxed settings. Games like rocket league I often top over 200fps with my 2070 (with an r5 3600k) this would be a great upgrade to get started updating your rig

I'm don't really want to stick with the old CPU which is why I plan to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600. Also I don't mean to correct you and be annoying but I believe the CPU you're talking about is the Ryzen 5 3600x, the K is intel.

 

Yeh, I've seen the benchmarks. I reckon prices will drop and I've seen a few go for £250. I don't know how much the Refurbished one will be but I hope its cheap as I would like to spend a bit on some RGB aswell as having more money for the mobo, £90 was my limit. I will also probably spend a bit more on the PSU.

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Slottr said:

From the community standards 

Sorry if I broke the rules. I wasn't trying to advertise. I was trying to show the link so that those replying can see if the card is decent or not.

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CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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1 hour ago, CloudPC said:

I have a computer, I can't run games. I has an I7-4700 non K, 24gb ddr3 1600 ram, and two 256gb SATA SSDs aswell as a 1tb HDD 7200rpm.

Then just get a well-priced GPU today. I see no reason why you need to upgrade the rest (apart from the PSU) if you're not chasing after high refresh rate, but just playing the game

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then just get a well-priced GPU today. I see no reason why you need to upgrade the rest (apart from the PSU) if you're not chasing after high refresh rate, but just playing the game

I would very much like to take advantage of DDR4. Plus my tower is a small form factor HP elite desk.

 

If I were to upgrade the GPU, I would have to upgrade the case, motherboard, CPU cooler and PSU in the process. And if I'm going to that much effort I might aswell build a new system. Anyway I thought about it and I've decided to build a new rig. 

 

There's many benefits and the more cores will help in Premiere. Plus the Ryzen 5 3600 is a lot better than my current I7 4770.

 

So yeh, building a new rig is my aim. Gonna wait till march so that I have enough money. And then I will decide on what other parts to go for.

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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14 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

If I were to upgrade the GPU, I would have to upgrade the case, motherboard, CPU cooler and PSU in the process. And if I'm going to that much effort I might aswell build a new system. Anyway I thought about it and I've decided to build a new rig. 

 

lesson on why you shouldnt get a prebuilt I think

 

14 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

So yeh, building a new rig is my aim. Gonna wait till march so that I have enough money. And then I will decide on what other parts to go for.

Problem is apart from Nvidia's 30 series launch, we also know that AMD's next gen CPU and GPU will be announced in later this month. If you're not gonna buy the new stuff anyway, then you should wait till say October after the current gen stuff finish bleeding out their price.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2nd hand Radeon 580 or gtx 1070.

150 to 200

 

But buying anything in that range now will be cheaper in a few months.

 

Think of it as paying and extra 50 to be gaming well NOW.

The rest of your rig is not bad.

 

Bleeding edge AAA titles will be a bit CPU limited but way above 30fps. So eminently playable.

 

Assassin's Creed origins was the first game that made realise my i5 3570k was getting a bit long in the tooth. (GTA5 and Watch Dogs 2 were right on the limit)

 

 

 

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