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I was wondering if you could help me out choosing new closed-back headphones for under 200$/€. I've had the audiotechnica ATH-T500 (now called ATH-AVC500) for probably like 7 years if not more. They sound great in my opinion but their doom was ultimately the cable which got stiffer and stiffer every year and now the right cup is not playing. So I want something that sounds very similar but has a removable cable. I tried ATH-M40x but they sound absolutely horrible. They have very annoying V sound signature. Also the highs are very sharp. I gues I like it flat... although I don't know how the signature really is on ATH-T500s, I can just hear they are very noticeably flatter than the M40xs.

I would be really grateful for all your suggestions (they don't have to be audiotechnicas).

Thanks!

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sennhiser 280 pros they have a replaceable cable and I have seen mods for a removable cable

 

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17 minutes ago, sub68 said:

thanks for the suggestions!
however I'd like not to mod the headphones if I don't have to, so is there maybe a higher model of the same sennheiser family that does have a removable cable?
I'm affraid of the 50x as I had a very negative, above mentioned experience with the 40x. are they flatter than their cheaper brethren? do they have the sharp highs?

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13 minutes ago, Dellmor said:

are they flatter than their cheaper brethren? do they have the sharp highs?

I don't know

13 minutes ago, Dellmor said:

don't have to, so is there maybe a higher model of the same sennheiser family that does have a removable cable?

no

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22 minutes ago, Alex Ushigome said:

Are you sure you didn't demo the M50X instead? The M40X are flat, and its the M50X that have murder treble.

yes. I'm sure. I specifically ordered 40x because I saw a video from Z reviews where he says the m50x are awful and 40x are extremely good. well, if 40x are extremely good then I don't wanna know how 50x sound like. 

Actually, I do wanna know, but I have nowhere to test them without ordering them first.

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On 8/10/2020 at 8:16 PM, Dellmor said:

yes. I'm sure. I specifically ordered 40x because I saw a video from Z reviews where he says the m50x are awful and 40x are extremely good. well, if 40x are extremely good then I don't wanna know how 50x sound like. 

Actually, I do wanna know, but I have nowhere to test them without ordering them first.

so I bought m50x and they are definitely better. so, there's that...

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looking at measurements not having heard the headphone it seems like it's going for a mostly neutral W shaped sound signature with a upper treble emphasis. with that in mind I really want to reccomend the akg k361 and possibly the 371 which is less neutral. the 361 leans on a more neutral sound signature then what you are used to. a tasteful amount of bass great mids adn the treble is nice and controlled. the 371 is a bassier model more what we like to call harman compliant as it very closely follows the harman target response. which many hate but those that like harman and accept it as neutral love this headphone. giid mids , bass can be heavy to some ears but for me its a good just enough for a neutral pair of headphones though it is heavier than the akg k361. I personally like the 371 more but im not the type to really like a neutral pair of headphones. 

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14 minutes ago, rice guru said:

looking at measurements not having heard the headphone it seems like it's going for a mostly neutral W shaped sound signature with a upper treble emphasis. with that in mind I really want to reccomend the akg k361 and possibly the 371 which is less neutral. the 361 leans on a more neutral sound signature then what you are used to. a tasteful amount of bass great mids adn the treble is nice and controlled. the 371 is a bassier model more what we like to call harman compliant as it very closely follows the harman target response. which many hate but those that like harman and accept it as neutral love this headphone. giid mids , bass can be heavy to some ears but for me its a good just enough for a neutral pair of headphones though it is heavier than the akg k361. I personally like the 371 more but im not the type to really like a neutral pair of headphones. 

thanks for the suggestions. for now I will keep the m50x because I like the sound. I feel like the mids are a bit duller than on the ATH-T500 but it could very much be the case that the T500 had the mid tuned up. in any case if I have the chance to listen to 361 or 371 I definitely will. 

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I recommend having a look at the ATH-990Z. Can be had under £200 (I think my pair cost me £180). No detachable cable but can be modded. Very "Audio-Technica" sound profile; fun without being overly coloured, detailed without being overly analytical, and not a horrible V-shape in sight.

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4 minutes ago, HM-2 said:

I recommend having a look at the ATH-990Z. Can be had under £200 (I think my pair cost me £180). No detachable cable but can be modded. Very "Audio-Technica" sound profile; fun without being overly coloured, detailed without being overly analytical, and not a horrible V-shape in sight.

thanks, but like I mentioned above, I'd like not to mod my headphones. also, here they cost 280€ :/ but they did catch my eye earlier, because they even look similar to T500

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