network AMD vs Intel Same Lan Cable Different Game Latency.

[Towerjas]

Hi all you lovely people.

 

I have a question regarding latency. Both on fresh systems one Lenovo Legion I7 Intel and RTX 2060 based and the other AMD 3700X and RX 5700 XT with MSI X570 Edge Gaming WIFI Mobo.

 

I tested both systems on the same ethernet cable to same lan port on my Router. When in Call of Duty on the Intel system I get 15ms latency. But on AMD system I cant get it lower than 27ms. I mean it is the same 30m Cat6 cable I used.

 

What can cause this. The GPU time and CPU time on Intel is about 5ms where on the AMD my GPU time is at 14ms and CPU time at 5ms. My ping via speedtest.net comes back at 4/5ms. So can it be the GPU time on AMD that increases my latency in COD for the AMD system?

 

I have no bloatware, killer network or cfos installed on any system. All drivers up to date and more. Both fresh versions of windows as well.

 

Note that I struggled about a month to get a virus out of my network that embedded itself on al my firmware on my devices. But I do not believe that this is the case. Although I'm still paranoid that this latency on my PC can be due to some remains of the virus. As when the trojan was at its peak my avg latency was about 77ms spiking to 100ms on intense render scenes.

 

Also note QOS and more are same for the laptop and desktop also maybe to note that the AMD is running at 4K 60hz and the Intel at 1080 144hz.

 

Please don't crucify me, but any any input or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance all. 

[GoodEnough]

speedtest.net isnt a good representation for ping while in game, the easiest way i can explain it is when you get 30~ms during the test, in game you would generally get 60~ms, since there is delay when communicating with the games servers.

 

so when testing your ping with speedtest/ookla just double the amount you got in the test to get the approximate amount of ping you would get in game. hopefully this helped to some extent and by no means am i an expert to this type of stuff, im simply only going off of expirence.

but again, doubling the amount of ping you got from the test is probably the easiest and simplest way to calculate the estimated amount of ping you should get while in game.

 

another you could try doing is thinking of this, so say you got 20 ping during the test, and you times that by 2 and get 40, lets say that will be your minimum average ping while in game and then you times it by 3 and you get 60, that should be your maximum average ping while in game.

 

servers tend to vary in quality, so as long as your ping is in that range, you should be in the "o.k"

 

im sorry i couldnt figure out why one pc has higher ping than the other, that one thing just doesnt seem to make sense. and i know its a hassle but its always good to completely wipe your hard drive and reinstall windows 10 every now and then, just remember to retrieve and remove your key from the pc so you can reuse it when you reinstall

[Nena Trinity]

Does both use same Intel Ethernet? Or does the other motherboard not use the same?

[Towerjas]

@GoodEnough

 

Thanks for the attempt, please note I am using in-game latency and not speedtest. Just mentioning that on speedtest my pings are both the same, but in-game there is about a 10ms difference and that 10ms difference almost equites to the 10ms difference that I find on the in-game stats that is on the AMD 10ms more on the GPU time/latency (AMD 14ms) where the RTX is (4ms) but al the info on the net states, that GPU time/latency should not effect the network latency. 

 

Also note that both systems has a 2 week old fresh install of windows. As I had to format them due to the Trojan. So both are fresh as can be. No weird software as I'm quite the minimalist. 

Maybe COD uses GPT Time/Latency plus CPU Times plus network ping to calculate the final latency of the game? 

 

COD has a HUD that displays your latency, GPU Time and CPU time. 

 

Note that the 15ms avg for Intel and 27ms avg for intel is a calculated avg of some 4 weeks of tests. 

Just weird though.  

 

This is def not n network issue but a PC based result. 

Both adapter on the laptop and Desktop is of the same RealTek Gbe PCIe Family @Nena Trinity

Really blows my mind. And cant find anything about this on the net. Also note, the connection used on both PC's are exactly the same, even with the same cable. 

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, Towerjas said:

@GoodEnough

 

Thanks for the attempt, please note I am using in-game latency and not speedtest. Just mentioning that on speedtest my pings are both the same, but in-game there is about a 10ms difference and that 10ms difference almost equites to the 10ms difference that I find on the in-game stats that is on the AMD 10ms more on the GPU time/latency (AMD 14ms) where the RTX is (4ms) but al the info on the net states, that GPU time/latency should not effect the network latency. 

Maybe COD uses GPT Time/Latency plus CPU Times plus network ping to calculate the final latency of the game? 

 

COD has a HUD that displays your latency, GPU Time and CPU time. 

 

Note that the 15ms avg for Intel and 27ms avg for intel is a calculated avg of some 4 weeks of tests. 

Just weird though.  

 

This is def not n network issue but a PC based result. 

Both adapter on the laptop and Desktop is of the same RealTek Gbe PCIe Family @Nena Trinity

Really blows my mind. And cant find anything about this on the net. Also note, the connection used on both PC's are exactly the same, even with the same cable. 

Could be software issues, are both boards made by same board partner?

[Towerjas]

@Nena Trinity

No Intel system on Lenovo Legion I7 2060 and AMD on X570 MSI Gaming Edge Wifi  3700X, 5700XT

 

Ethernet Card Both the same. 

[Nena Trinity]

17 minutes ago, Towerjas said:

@Nena Trinity

No Intel system on Lenovo Legion I7 2060 and AMD on X570 MSI Gaming Edge Wifi  3700X, 5700XT

 

Ethernet Card Both the same. 

MSI may be at fault or its software, their mobos always seemed to have shit ethernet...

[Towerjas]

@Nena Trinity & @GoodEnough

 

Sooo for the first time in months I have gotten 15ms on my AMD system. 

 

I turned of frame limiter so not to limit to 60 FPS. The GPU time came down from 18ms to 5 ms, and the main Latency went to 15ms! Wow so limiting the frames increased the latency of the game. Wow.....  The game now runs at 150 FPS and the Latency of the game came down. 

[Nena Trinity]

Just now, Towerjas said:

@Nena Trinity & @GoodEnough

 

Sooo for the first time in months I have gotten 15ms on my AMD system. 

 

I turned of frame limiter so not to limit to 60 FPS. The GPU time came down from 18ms to 5 ms, and the main Latency went to 15ms! Wow so limiting the frames increased the latency of the game. Wow.....  The game now runs at 150 FPS and the Latency of the game came down. 

Latency is lowered by more FPS, but that should be only on the system side.