750/1000 Euro AAA Gaming rig?

[Cheesus182]

Budget (including currency): EUR 750 / 1000 - Preferably on the lower end as I don't know how much I'll be using it yet but if that means that I wont be able to run AAA titles at 60fps 1440 in 1/2 years then I'd rather spend a bit more now.

Country: Belgium / Europe

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  AAA Gaming

Other details  No existing parts

 

 

 

2. Aim

AAA Gaming - I do most of my gaming on Xbox but there are a few titles on PC I would like to play. Generally speaking I'm wondering if its a good time to buy a PC, I'm not in a rush and I have no idea how Covid affected PC pricing. Also I recently read that nVidia is getting ready to launch their new cards. Does it make sense to wait for them to release to then either go straight for the new cards or to maybe but the "old" ones at a discounted price? Does anyone have a rough estimate when they might release or is this a bit unrealistic?

 

3. Monitors

 

Anything curved around 27" or ultrawide. I don't need any crazy refresh rates or anything hyper amazing. Any "casual" recommendations or good value recommendations are welcome. 1440p would be nice on bigger screens.

Monitor is not included in the budget. The budget is just for the PC. The budget for the monitor is whatever a "casual" 27" curved screen costs.

 

4. Peripherals

No need.

 

 

I appreciate any input even though it is pretty vague. I guess I'm looking for a reference machine with a bit of information thrown in on whether it makes sense to buy at the moment or not.

 

Thanks guys!

[Infernomoonsault]

2 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

I'm wondering if its a good time to buy a PC,

Feel free to correct me, but i am pretty sure waiting until big navi, ampere and zen3 should actually be much better. Even if you won't need the extra performance, the price drop for even existing parts will be welcome.

[gloop]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€179.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€94.04 @ Azerty
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory	€69.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Storage	Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€72.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€64.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	€263.05 @ Azerty
Case	Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	€40.98 @ Alternate Belgium
Power Supply	be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	€59.04 @ Azerty
Monitor	LG 34UM69G-B 34.0" 2560x1080 75 Hz Monitor	€366.95 @ Azerty
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1211.62
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 13:47 CEST+0200

You can get the price down on the monitor to about 200 euro by going with a 16:9 panel.

 

I'd suggest waiting for Ampere and Zen3.

[Oswin]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€140.00
Motherboard	ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€94.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	€70.95 @ Bytes At Work
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€120.95 @ Bytes At Work
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	€396.00 @ Azerty
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	€57.98 @ Alternate Belgium
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€89.90 @ Paradigit
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€970.67
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 13:54 CEST+0200

the 3300x is currently out of stock, you can easily replace it with a 3600 but that would take the total cost to be 1010 euros.

 

 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Oswin said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€140.00
Motherboard	ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€94.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	€70.95 @ Bytes At Work
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€120.95 @ Bytes At Work
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	€396.00 @ Azerty
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	€57.98 @ Alternate Belgium
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€89.90 @ Paradigit
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€970.67
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 13:54 CEST+0200

the 3300x is currently out of stock, you can easily replace it with a 3600 but that would take the total cost to be 1010 euros.

 

 

Agree on the 3600 but the power supply was recalled several times for issues. Change to a SeaSonic Core model or a Be Quiet Pure Power Gold. I'd also suggest an HP Elite SSD and a 5700 XT pulse as the MSI Mech is mediocre.

[marmour]

21 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€165.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€85.69 @ Alternate
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	€68.89 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€59.45 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE Video Card	€290.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case	€59.19 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€79.99 @ Corsair DE
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€809.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 14:03 CEST+0200

If possible, I would try and buy from Germany. Pricing is slightly better all round.

I would also consider waiting for the new GPU launches.

 

If you are targeting 1440p, I would not go lower than a 5700XT. I would swap the 5600XT for this model: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Also consider a B550 board for about 40 euro more if you want slightly better features and overclocking headroom, and more certainty with future support

[5x5]

1 minute ago, marmour said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€165.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€85.69 @ Alternate
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	€68.89 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€59.45 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB PULSE Video Card	€290.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case	€59.19 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€79.99 @ Corsair DE
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€809.20
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-20 14:03 CEST+0200

If possible, I would try and buy from Germany. Pricing is slightly better all round.

I would also consider waiting for the new GPU launches.

 

If you are targeting 1440p, I would not go lower than a 5700XT. I would swap the 5600XT for this model: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/6kdrxr/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd

 

Also consider a B550 board for about 40 euro more if you want slightly better features and overclocking headroom, and more certainty with future support

Throw in a 30 euro tower cooler. He can just enable PBO

[Cheesus182]

Thanks for the suggestions guys, gives me a great base.

 

A question regarding the GPU. The 5700XT goes for around 380ish as far as I can tell. The 2070 for 440ish but it seems as if there is almost a negligible performance difference? 
Does DLSS / Ray Tracing factor into the discussion here at all or is AMD just undercutting nvidia?

 

Some of you mentioned to wait for big navi, ampere and zen3. Googling points towards September 2020 release on all of those. Does that align with expectations or is that largely unsubstantiated? 
I wouldn't mind waiting until September but waiting until next year wouldn't make too much sense.

 

Thanks guys!
 

[gloop]

27 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

A question regarding the GPU. The 5700XT goes for around 380ish as far as I can tell. The 2070 for 440ish but it seems as if there is almost a negligible performance difference? 
Does DLSS / Ray Tracing factor into the discussion here at all or is AMD just undercutting nvidia?

 

If you want Raytracing and to still have reasonable frames, you want a 2080 super playing at 1080 medium. 
 

28 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

Some of you mentioned to wait for big navi, ampere and zen3. Googling points towards September 2020 release on all of those. Does that align with expectations or is that largely unsubstantiated? 
I wouldn't mind waiting until September but waiting until next year wouldn't make too much sense.

Yeah, basically expected from September onwards. 

[marmour]

24 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

A question regarding the GPU. The 5700XT goes for around 380ish as far as I can tell. The 2070 for 440ish but it seems as if there is almost a negligible performance difference? 
Does DLSS / Ray Tracing factor into the discussion here at all or is AMD just undercutting nvidia?

The 5700XT performs almost the same for a significant saving. You do miss out on ray tracing and DLSS 2.0, but these are still not implemented in many games, and ray tracing especially gives an often unjustifiable performance hit. 

 

26 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

Some of you mentioned to wait for big navi, ampere and zen3. Googling points towards September 2020 release on all of those. Does that align with expectations or is that largely unsubstantiated? 

Big Navi and Ampere are expected around september/october from what ive heard, so definitely worth waiting for. Zen 3 has been confirmed to be released this year, however it will no doubt be very late in the year and may not necessarily be the Ryzen 5 and 7 parts that most people are interested in.

So I would definitely wait till september, but for zen 3 I would only wait if you have a rig that you are happy enough with to tide you over.