High 'CPU (GAME) Time'

[VladzD]

Hello,

 

First and foremost thanks for taking the time to read this.

 

Let's get on with it, I am currently running these specs (if i left any out feel free to ask):
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 @Stock

GPU: MSI GTX 1080 TI Gaming TRIO

MOBO: MSI B450 GAMING CARBON WIFI

MEMORY: 32 GB 3000MHZ CL15 Corsair

PSU: Corsair CX650

Monitor: AOC 27" 2560x1440 144hz

FPS Results valorant: sometimes it reaches 144hz (both wtih vsync turned on and off), quite often spikes down to the 70-80 range..

FPS Results league of legends: mostly around the 120-130-ish.

And the issues im facing are in both riot games actually, Valorant as well as League of Legends. The struggle I'm facing is that my CPU is mostly around 30% utilization and the same goes for my GPU. However what I notice is that I do not get 144fps, which I've limited it too nor does my gpu really seem to get any proper load. My CPU (Game) time seems fairly high whilst in a match of valorant. It has spikes of up to 12ms with about an average of 6.x ms, a friend of mine only has it around 2-4ms (he has the same CPU as i do). Does anyone have any tips regarding to the cause of this issue?

 

Though the FPS numbers aren't necessarily bad.. I'd like to think my system should be capable of running atleast 144fps in both games..
Thermals aren't an issue as my CPU tops out at 55c and my GPU tops out at 40-45c whilst playing either of those games.

Yours sincerely,

Vlad

[LIGISTX]

11 minutes ago, VladzD said:

Hello,

 

First and foremost thanks for taking the time to read this.

 

Let's get on with it, I am currently running these specs (if i left any out feel free to ask):
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 @Stock

GPU: MSI GTX 1080 TI Gaming TRIO

MOBO: MSI B450 GAMING CARBON WIFI

MEMORY: 32 GB 3000MHZ CL15 Corsair

PSU: Corsair CX650

And the issues im facing are in both riot games actually, Valorant as well as League of Legends. The struggle I'm facing is that my CPU is mostly around 30% utilization and the same goes for my GPU. However what I notice is that I do not get 144fps, which I've limited it too nor does my gpu really seem to get any proper load. My CPU (Game) time seems fairly high whilst in a match of valorant. It has spikes of up to 12ms with about an average of 6.x ms, a friend of mine only has it around 2-4ms (he has the same CPU as i do). Does anyone have any tips regarding to the cause of this issue?

Thermals aren't an issue as my CPU tops out at 55c and my GPU tops out at 40-45c whilst playing either of those games.

Yours sincerely,

Vlad

Is vsync on causing the FPS to lock to potentially 60 FPS? Or an in game setting set to max of 60 FPS?

[VladzD]

22 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Is vsync on causing the FPS to lock to potentially 60 FPS? Or an in game setting set to max of 60 FPS?

I am running a 144hz 1440p monitor, might have been smart to mention that. Will edit that in a sec.

I have tried with both vsync on and off, both deliver the same results. Except that without vsyn the highest fps is somewhat higher.

Something that might be relevant is that HWMonitor tells me tthat Utilization Limit = 1, so is turned on. This however could be down to the high cpu time not giving the GPU enough load..

[Mateyyy]

Are you running the latest BIOS and chipset drivers?

Is XMP enabled in the BIOS?

Have you tried disabling HPET?

[VladzD]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

Are you running the latest BIOS and chipset drivers?

Is XMP enabled in the BIOS?

Have you tried disabling HPET?

Bios updated yesterday samn goes for chipset drivers.
XMP is enabled or the memory wouldnt reach 3000mhz

HPET, not sure... Could you explain this one to me?

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, VladzD said:

Bios updated yesterday samn goes for chipset drivers.
XMP is enabled or the memory wouldnt reach 3000mhz

HPET, not sure... Could you explain this one to me?

Alright. Some people believe that the memory will run at the rated speed right from the get-go without changing anything, so that's why I'm asking haha.

 

HPET is basically a hardware timer used by Windows 10. From what I understood from your post, you're getting frame drops at certain intervals, so maybe there's something software related that's causing this - either some background app or said HPET which, granted, I've never actually messed with. I've just heard that for some, disabling it actually improves performance by quite a bit.

[VladzD]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Alright. Some people believe that the memory will run at the rated speed right from the get-go without changing anything, so that's why I'm asking haha.

 

HPET is basically a hardware timer used by Windows 10. From what I understood from your post, you're getting frame drops at certain intervals, so maybe there's something software related that's causing this - either some background app or said HPET which, granted, I've never actually messed with. I've just heard that for some, disabling it actually improves performance by quite a bit.

I'll try this in a second, it's worth a shot.. 

I mean, haven't kept up-to-date with the GPU market since I bought my current one so it might be this one is getting outdated as well(?)

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, VladzD said:

I'll try this in a second, it's worth a shot.. 

I mean, haven't kept up-to-date with the GPU market since I bought my current one so it might be this one is getting outdated as well(?)

Nah, the 1080Ti is still a very solid GPU even today. It's slightly better than AMD Radeon's best current offering, and about on par with Nvidia's 2070 Super.

[VladzD]

3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Nah, the 1080Ti is still a very solid GPU even today. It's slightly better than AMD Radeon's best current offering, and about on par with Nvidia's 2070 Super.

I originally started to realise i was having fps issues watching this video:

at the given timestamp it shows my cpu + the one tier lower gpu beating my fps average by around 100 if not more 

[VladzD]

2 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Alright. Some people believe that the memory will run at the rated speed right from the get-go without changing anything, so that's why I'm asking haha.

 

HPET is basically a hardware timer used by Windows 10. From what I understood from your post, you're getting frame drops at certain intervals, so maybe there's something software related that's causing this - either some background app or said HPET which, granted, I've never actually messed with. I've just heard that for some, disabling it actually improves performance by quite a bit.

sadly disabling HPET didn't change performance

[Mateyyy]

5 hours ago, VladzD said:

sadly disabling HPET didn't change performance

Is the game (or games) installed on an SSD? If so, is there at least a decent bit of free space on said SSD?

You could try using DDU to remove the video drivers and reinstalling the latest. What version are you on at the moment?

[VladzD]

2 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Is the game (or games) installed on an SSD? If so, is there at least a decent bit of free space on said SSD?

You could try using DDU to remove the video drivers and reinstalling the latest. What version are you on at the moment?

I have both games and the riot client installed in my intel 660p nvme SSD, I'm on 451.67 driver version. With regards to gpu and amd chipset drivers are on version 2.05.04.352. Motherboard bios: MS-7B85 / 1.C0  VGA Bios 1F0

[Mateyyy]

16 minutes ago, VladzD said:

I have both games and the riot client installed in my intel 660p nvme SSD, I'm on 451.67 driver version. With regards to gpu and amd chipset drivers are on version 2.05.04.352. Motherboard bios: MS-7B85 / 1.C0  VGA Bios 1F0

And you're running a fresh install of Windows? Or did you recently upgrade to the 3600 and B450 board, and are still running an older Windows install?

It's just quite odd that, from what I understand, this only happens in Riot games. Maybe it's got something to do with their anti-cheat and your particular hardware combination..?

 

I haven't tried 451.67 yet, but 451.48 was nothing but trouble for me, so I'm back on 446.14 for my video driver. I'm going to assume that Nvidia resolved some of the issues with this latest update though.

[VladzD]

23 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

And you're running a fresh install of Windows? Or did you recently upgrade to the 3600 and B450 board, and are still running an older Windows install?

It's just quite odd that, from what I understand, this only happens in Riot games. Maybe it's got something to do with their anti-cheat and your particular hardware combination..?

 

I haven't tried 451.67 yet, but 451.48 was nothing but trouble for me, so I'm back on 446.14 for my video driver. I'm going to assume that Nvidia resolved some of the issues with this latest update though.

Yeah I've only noticed it much in Riot games. I also play games like Forza horizon 4 and Satisfactory, those use up as much as 80-99% of my GPU whilst putting the cpu under load too. So that rules out (in my opinion) things like too weak of a power supply or an issue under combined load.  I did upgrade to b450 and 3600, am not sure whether I have cleanly installed windows after that.. This would be my last resort of a solution since I don't have any drive to actively back-up too but I'll find a work around I think. Nevertheless I'd hope to exhaust any other options before reinstalling Windows

[Mateyyy]

12 minutes ago, VladzD said:

Yeah I've only noticed it much in Riot games. I also play games like Forza horizon 4 and Satisfactory, those use up as much as 80-99% of my GPU whilst putting the cpu under load too. So that rules out (in my opinion) things like too weak of a power supply or an issue under combined load.  I did upgrade to b450 and 3600, am not sure whether I have cleanly installed windows after that.. This would be my last resort of a solution since I don't have any drive to actively back-up too but I'll find a work around I think. Nevertheless I'd hope to exhaust any other options before reinstalling Windows

Make sure Game DVR is also disabled, other than that I can't really think of what the culprit could be, at least at the moment.

Generally it's recommended to do a fresh install of Windows when changing out the motherboard and CPU, as you can often run into some weird issues.

[VladzD]

7 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Make sure Game DVR is also disabled, other than that I can't really think of what the culprit could be, at least at the moment.

Generally it's recommended to do a fresh install of Windows when changing out the motherboard and CPU, as you can often run into some weird issues.

DVR luckily is turned off. I'll give a fresh install a try sometime today or tomorrow I think. Since I can't really find any other culprit either. I'll keep you updated on the results. I'm also in talks with RIOT devs, they might be able to find the issue (I hope)

[VladzD]

6 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Make sure Game DVR is also disabled, other than that I can't really think of what the culprit could be, at least at the moment.

Generally it's recommended to do a fresh install of Windows when changing out the motherboard and CPU, as you can often run into some weird issues.

Just freshly installed windows with all disks formatted. Reinstalling drivers now. Will update you on the results later this evening

[VladzD]

9 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Make sure Game DVR is also disabled, other than that I can't really think of what the culprit could be, at least at the moment.

Generally it's recommended to do a fresh install of Windows when changing out the motherboard and CPU, as you can often run into some weird issues.

Looking back at the original install date of my previous windows it was after installing my new cpu...
however the fresh install fixed it thanks for you advice

[Mateyyy]

23 minutes ago, VladzD said:

Looking back at the original install date of my previous windows it was after installing my new cpu...
however the fresh install fixed it thanks for you advice

Nice, glad to hear that! 

[VladzD]

On 7/13/2020 at 12:41 AM, Mateyyy said:

Nice, glad to hear that! 

Not sure if you're still here, seems i didnt respond either at the time. But the issue is gone after a clean install, but return shortly after. Like i can play one or two games after a fresh install and the problem returns..

 

NOTE: There isnt any programs i installed in the mean time of those games.