bottleneck

[Robin1465]

i plan on buying a 1660 super to upgrade from my gtx 960 since i am using a 3700x ryzen right now (and hopefully get an even better gpu in the future). With that said, would this cause bottleneck or stuttering? I don't play hard aaa games atm and usually spend most of my time in chill games like LoL or Valorant. Would it be a problem?

[zeusthemoose]

I would wait a few months to buy a new gpu because that’s when the new GPUs are being launched.

That said, the 1660 super should be a moderate performance bump to your 960. I don’t believe it will be a bottleneck.

[Robin1465]

@zeusthemoose i see... although using the bottleneck calculator, it said that it will, can you enlighten me on this as to whether what it shows are true or not 

 

[zeusthemoose]

14 minutes ago, Robin1465 said:

@zeusthemoose i see... although using the bottleneck calculator, it said that it will, can you enlighten me on this as to whether what it shows are true or not 

 

I don’t believe that the online bottleneck calculator is accurate. While it is an fairly weak gpu to put with the cpu, I don’t think it will actually bottleneck it.

[khaled2012]

The thing is, with very high refresh rate and UHD resolution, even the 2080ti can bottleneck the 3700x which means the gpu will reach 100% utilization state when the cpu is still at for example 50%. So, the graphics card buying decision totally depends on your monitor properties.

 

If the display resolution is 1080p and refresh rate is below 75Hz, then the 1660 super won't bottleneck any cpu. The extra cores will come useful if you decide to stream while gaming. But if your screen resolution above 1440p and/or refresh rate is 120Hz or more, then you should buy a gtx 2070 or better to avoid bottleneck.

 

The bottleneck calculator considers that you have the best possible display (like 4k and 240Hz) and then calculates bottleneck to ensure near 100% utilization on both cpu and gpu simultaneously.

[NineEyeRon]

If it does cause stuttering it is easily fixed by capping the FPS into the g-sync or freesync range of the monitor or using other techniques.

 

Bottlenecks are only a “value for money” concern once bedded in, the question then is does it matter that you have 10-15 FPS less than you could have done? If you capped it anyway then did it even matter?

 

You can still get an improvement over a lesser card, just not the full capability of the better card.

 

 

[Robin1465]

I see... i've been experiencing stuttering for so many days already and all my computer parts are new except for my GTX 960 which was from my old build.....

This is why I was considering buying a 1660S/2060/5600xt/5700xt with the hopes that my problem would be solved...

 

im running a 144hz monitor 1080p only.... so @NineEyeRon @khaled2012, considering your inputs what do you think should I buy? (your opinions are really appreciated)

[Chris Pratt]

For gaming, the GPU is almost always the bottleneck, as most games just don't rely that heavily on the CPU, and even modern CPUs on the low end are enough. If you watch any CPU reviews that include game benchmarks, you'll see they almost always throw in something like a 2080 Ti and run it at 1080p, just so the GPU can push enough frames to actually even show a difference in CPU utilization.

 

A 1660 *will* be a bottleneck, because it's not going to be able to push enough frames to ever tax the CPU. But, that doesn't really mean anything. The bottleneck discussion is a relative one, for comparing hardware purchases, and it's totally dependent on what you are doing. If you get a 1660, for example, and are then considering getting a Ryzen 3600 or a 3900x, the logic would be that it's not worth getting the 3900x. However, if you're doing heavy productivity tasks, in addition to gaming, then the 3900x might be totally worth it.

[NineEyeRon]

It’s difficult @Robin1465 as it all comes down to your budget and acceptable visual experience.

 

I run an RX580 at 1080p 144hz and really can’t justify an upgrade as I have more than enough FPS for the games I play. 
 

I will go 1440p one day soon but will upgrade GPU and monitor together. My cpu can run up to a 5700XT and be fine for the games I play but I am probably going to get a 5700 only for budget reasons.

 

Buy what feels right for your budget and expected experience, don’t worry too much about bottlenecks as it will only lead to buying an underpowered GPU outside of relevant CPUs for gaming (recent i5s and above for Intel). Even the difference between my i7 920 and i5 8600 using the RX580 wasn’t experience changing for me, it just eliminated a few FPS dips that got near the bottom of my freesync range and allowed a few quality bumps/mod additions in a few games.

 

Nothing groundbreaking at that was a 9 year old CPU!

[khaled2012]

3 hours ago, Robin1465 said:

I see... i've been experiencing stuttering for so many days already and all my computer parts are new except for my GTX 960 which was from my old build.....

This is why I was considering buying a 1660S/2060/5600xt/5700xt with the hopes that my problem would be solved...

 

im running a 144hz monitor 1080p only.... so @NineEyeRon @khaled2012, considering your inputs what do you think should I buy? (your opinions are really appreciated)

For a 1080p 144Hz monitor, the 5700xt will give you the best performance. The rtx 2060 and 5600xt will perform similar and will give a bit lower performance than the 5700xt. Considering almost all monitors support freesync, buying a 5700xt is the best option for you.

 

But if you are on a budget, choose rtx 2060 or 5600xt based on these considerations >>>>

 

Consideration 1 (FPS-refresh rate Sync):

Go for the rtx 2060 if the monitor supports G-sync or adaptive sync. And if it supports only freesync, buy the 5600xt. Stuttering and screen tearing will be solved.

 

Consideration 2 (Driver and optimization):

Going with a Nvidia card is always a good choice due to occasion driver issues with AMD cards. If you monitor has G-sync or adaptive sync, buy rtx 2060 without any second thought and get rid of both screen stuttering and driver issue. But using Nvidia card with a monitor without G-sync or adaptive sync support might introduce occasional screen tearing while showing no driver issue. 

 

Consideration 3 (Game based decision):

Just watch YouTube videos on which card runs the games that you play the most better. Then buy that card..simple.

 

The performance you'll get with rtx 2060/ 5600xt/ 5700xt with ryzen 3700x will be almost the same if you had a ryzen 3600 instead. The extra cpu power of 3700x won't come useful to you during gaming. To match the ryzen 3700x, you could've gone for a very powerful gpu but you cannot do that either because of the limitations of your existing monitor.

 

I don't know whether or not you'll use your pc for game streaming or content creation or for using 3D CAD software. If you don't do any of them, buying the 3700x instead of 3600 has been a bad investment.