Thoughts on leak?

[DominicNikon]

Hello, I have this tubing run that leaks from both fittings on two events and I just re-set the tube and tightened it and it hasnt leaked yet but I was wondering is the turn it's doing to tight and can that possibility cause a leak? It's 10/16 tubbing using Barrow fittings

[Hairless Monkey]

8 minutes ago, DominicNikon said:

Hello, I have this tubing run that leaks from both fittings on two events and I just re-set the tube and tightened it and it hasnt leaked yet but I was wondering is the turn it's doing to tight and can that possibility cause a leak? It's 10/16 tubbing using Barrow fittings

No that shouldn't be too tight of a turn, but a couple of 45° fittings couldn't hurt.

 

Did the O-rings look okay? Are the barbs fully inserted into the tubes?

 

I have had no issues with my 10/13 Barrow fittings.

[Maticks]

That left run into the cpu doesn’t seem to be straight when it goes into the fitting.

Usually this can result in the tube not going all the way in.

possibly you are inserted part the way on one side and all the way on the other.

 You could put a straight piece into the fitting see how long the tube is when it’s all the way in then see how much tube the current one is in.

 

[DominicNikon]

20 minutes ago, Maticks said:

That left run into the cpu doesn’t seem to be straight when it goes into the fitting.

Usually this can result in the tube not going all the way in.

possibly you are inserted part the way on one side and all the way on the other.

 You could put a straight piece into the fitting see how long the tube is when it’s all the way in then see how much tube the current one is in.

 

What do you mean by straight piece? Also I believe this is the issue because when it leaks one part of the tubing is coming out of the fitting and is easily pulled out

[Maticks]

When the tube is completely flat it fits into the fitting all the way.

 Your tune bend appears to keep bending all the way into the fitting.

 See below you can do the bend just where the fitting goes in should be straight so all sides of the Oring are compressed evenly.

 

 

[DominicNikon]

28 minutes ago, Maticks said:

When the tube is completely flat it fits into the fitting all the way.

 Your tune bend appears to keep bending all the way into the fitting.

 See below you can do the bend just where the fitting goes in should be straight so all sides of the Oring are compressed evenly.

 

 

So I should re do that tubing run to make it longer?

[SuperStreetFighter]

This is a simple test you can do yourself to check for leaks, nobody here will be able to tell you by looking at the picture. Just do the simple classic Soapy bubble around the fittings air pressure test, you have a leak pressure tester right ?  

 

Also, that looks like a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Extreme, that's a $1100 CDN motherboard.... I personally wouldn't be playing games with some weird soft tubing bends here, is PETG or Acrylic tubing not an option for someone who can afford a $1100 motherboard ?

 

The other thing is I wouldn't trust Corsair current gen blocks right now, look at that GPU block of theirs that was missing a third screw and was leaking, it's all over YouTube. No idea how R&D missed that, it was such an obvious problem, and it's the same guys making their CPU blocks I assume.

 

 

[DominicNikon]

1 hour ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

Also, that looks like a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Extreme, that's a $1100 CDN motherboard.... I personally wouldn't be playing games with some weird soft tubing bends here, is PETG or Acrylic tubing not an option for someone who can afford a $1100 motherboard ?

Yes its an x570 xtreme. I did not do petg because i don't have a heat gun to bend it and stuff. 

1 hour ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

look at that GPU block of theirs that was missing a third screw and was leaking

Yes i saw that but I did not hear anything wrong with there cpu blocks and the block so far has been leak free but the fittings have leaked 3 times now because the tubing pops out even though I got it as right as it will go

 

[HM-2]

5 hours ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

The other thing is I wouldn't trust Corsair current gen blocks right now, look at that GPU block of theirs that was missing a third screw and was leaking, it's all over YouTube. No idea how R&D missed that, it was such an obvious problem, and it's the same guys making their CPU blocks I assume.

No doubt about it the connector block could have been better designed but the whole leak risk thing is a total storm in a teacup, they only leak if you put entirely unrealistic vertical stress on them like aggressively pulling the tubing up or down.

[SuperStreetFighter]

10 hours ago, HM-2 said:

No doubt about it the connector block could have been better designed but the whole leak risk thing is a total storm in a teacup, they only leak if you put entirely unrealistic vertical stress on them like aggressively pulling the tubing up or down.

 

unrealistic?  did you see the video ?   Jay just lightly pulled it up and it started gushing, but if you're ok with that type of risk then you got some balls, props to you buddy.

 

14 hours ago, DominicNikon said:

Yes its an x570 xtreme. I did not do petg because i don't have a heat gun to bend it and stuff. 

Yes i saw that but I did not hear anything wrong with there cpu blocks and the block so far has been leak free but the fittings have leaked 3 times now because the tubing pops out even though I got it as right as it will go

 

 

Ok well, soft tubing, for example I just disassembled some soft tubing yesterday (Pump to Reservoir)  and on one of the connections the soft tube was angled out enough to where water could leak out. That was just from lightly moving and repositioning the units within the case when I was installing it, and everything was tight before.

You can get a Heat gun at any local hardware store, they start @ $20 and you only need a basic one + tubing $20 + silicone insert/cutter $10....   

that's $50 of items right there that are easily available compared to the risk of leaking over your $1100 motherboard

good luck

[DominicNikon]

9 minutes ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

You can get a Heat gun at any local hardware store, they start @ $20 and you only need a basic one + tubing $20 + silicone insert/cutter $10....   

that's $50 of items right there that are easily available compared to the risk of leaking over your $1100 motherboard

good luck

Hardline Turbing has a lower chance of leaking then soft tubing?

[SuperStreetFighter]

2 minutes ago, DominicNikon said:

Hardline Turbing has a lower chance of leaking then soft tubing?

 

Hardline tubing once you plug it into the fitting it won't really move unless you accidentally touch it or something, it will only fail or pop out if there is some sort of catastrophic failure, it takes more to make it fail basically. 

Meanwhile soft tubing can casually flex and moves around on it's own sometimes, usually during the first little while of setting up a new loop when the pressures are all settling down and air being worked out, etc..  I mean that's literally what just happened to me today when I took it off after 2 weeks of running it.

 

But then at the same time some people will tell you that's exactly the reason soft tubing is safer, because it can "bend and flex" if needed not allowing the stress to get too much.   Not in my experience so far anyway, but I'm pretty new to this, just completed my first hard loop a month ago.

 

Honestly just looking at that picture, if I was you I would rethink the positioning of your components, that radiator is clearly too big to fit in that spot comfortably, it's pressing right up on the VRM heatsinks which isn't all that good. 

It would give you more space to work with to make proper routes, but I mean you can make a hard tubing bend there on the left, you'd need 1 or 2 90 degree fittings probably unless you're excellent at bending hard tubes.

[HM-2]

33 minutes ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

did you see the video ?  

Yes.

33 minutes ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

Jay just lightly pulled it up and it started gushing

Jay applied direct force to the junction which is a situation which will never manifest itself in normal usage. I can count the times I've reached into my case and randomly tugged on things on the fingers of my left knee and I imagine most other people can too.

 

36 minutes ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

if you're ok with that type of risk

What risk? Name a single "typical" use case in which that junction will be subject to the movement shown in the videos. 

 

I'd happily use the Corsair GPU blocks in my system with no fear of leaks because the scenarios in which they're shown to leak are so far removed from anything that a reasonable or rational person would be subjecting them to that they're totally irrelevant. Hence, storm in a teacup.

 

Also, FWIW soft tubing fixings are significantly more secure than hard tubing ones. The clamp pressure of compression fittings is much higher than dual o-ring hard line fittings, and angled soft tubing cuts are significantly less problematic in terms of getting a proper seal. Neither should present much of a leak risk to someone vaguely competent, but apparently people go round aggressively pulling on GPU block junctions for no damn reason so what do I know.

[-rascal-]

21 hours ago, DominicNikon said:

Hello, I have this tubing run that leaks from both fittings on two events and I just re-set the tube and tightened it and it hasnt leaked yet but I was wondering is the turn it's doing to tight and can that possibility cause a leak? It's 10/16 tubbing using Barrow fittings

 

Do you have another angle of that short tubing going into the IN port on the CPU block?

It seems like a somewhat aggressive bend from the radiator...slightly longer length tubing, to give it more slack, might help.

[SuperStreetFighter]

1 hour ago, HM-2 said:

Yes.

Jay applied direct force to the junction which is a situation which will never manifest itself in normal usage. I can count the times I've reached into my case and randomly tugged on things on the fingers of my left knee and I imagine most other people can too.

 

What risk? Name a single "typical" use case in which that junction will be subject to the movement shown in the videos. 

 

 

 

Well if you don't think it's an issue you're entitled to your opinion of course, but facts remain that it's clearly a design flaw, otherwise it wouldn't have been acknowledged by Corsair themselves, never mind the YouTube gurus.

 

[DominicNikon]

2 hours ago, SuperStreetFighter said:

that radiator is clearly too big to fit in that spot comfortably, it's pressing right up on the VRM heatsinks which isn't all that good. 

Yeah I'll eventually switch to hardline tubing. Also it's just the picture, in reality theres over half a inch of space before the radiator hits the vrm heatsink