msi rx 5700

[iamjosh]

i have had this computer many years and its been through many updates but right now i am running this

asRock x399 phantom gaming mb

amd threadripper 1900x cpu

650 watt gold rated psu

geil evopotenza ddr4 3200 ram

1920/1080 60 hz screen

and i just upgraded ? from a msi gtx750 to a msi rx 5700

here is my issue in a lot of games seemingly on low or high settings are getting bad fps drops

borderlands 3 , fortnite is very bad and even csgo will drop on occassion its literally worse than my gtx750 in fortnite

gpu load is 70 to 90 percent at high settings in fortnite cause that is what im trying to play

and on low settings its 40 to 55 percent usage

temps are around 60 to 65 degrees on gpu while trying to play on high settings

i clean reinstalled windows and reinstalled all drivers / games

reflashed bios with latest update

set ram to run closer to 3200 rather than 2133

as you can probably tell i am not extremely good with this crap mostly just want good fps in games

should i return card and buy a gtx 1080 like my brothers pc?

am i expecting too much from this card? i would have thought it could run at least better than my gtx750

[Mateyyy]

Threadripper, particularly first gen, was abysmal for gaming. That's very likely at least part of the reason.

[Haro]

The first gen thread ripper probably has to do with it 

They look like either 1% lows or bad frame time 

If you want ddu the drivers but I doubt that will fix anything

[iamjosh]

My cpu was only under about 25 to 35 percent load but I have heard that they suck before thanks for the reply 

[iamjosh]

How about a second gen threadripper?

 

[iamjosh]

2920 x

[TheDankKoosh]

All generations of threadripper are going to have some issues with gaming due to the latency bottleneck that they experience, this can be somewhat resolved with a good kit of quad channel ram with tuned speeds and timings.

[rodrigoxm49]

Like probably everyone is telling you, you have a bottleneck on this system. 

 

Sorry, but you need to upgrade.

 

The drops even worst than before is because the RX5700 is entrying on starving mode, reaching 0% of GPU usage for too many times and for too long, waiting for CPU cycles to keep it going. That's why you have worst performance than before. It's expected on unbalaced system like yours and performance on games that needs single core performance will suffer more than others.

 

You will need at least a Ryzen 3600.

[TheDankKoosh]

Just now, rodrigoxm49 said:

Like probably everyone is telling you, you have a massive, absolutely huge, bottleneck on this system. 1900x was not even a good CPU on launch, now it's almost uselles to anything better than a GTX950.

 

Sorry, but you need to upgrade.

 

The drops even worst than before is because the RX5700 is entrying on starving mode, reaching 0% of GPU usage waiting for CPU cycles. That's why you have worst performance than before. It's expected.

 

You will need at least a Ryzen 3600 or Core i5 10400 to get the best of RX5700.

He doesn't necessarily need to upgrade, people are way too quick to tell others to spend more money on their rigs, he could get perfectly fine results if he tuned a decent kit of ram.

[rodrigoxm49]

9 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

He doesn't necessarily need to upgrade, people are way too quick to tell others to spend more money on their rigs, he could get perfectly fine results if he tuned a decent kit of ram.

He's already have 2x8GB 3200Mhz, doesn't?? If so, faster memories will don't help that much at this point. 1900x have roughly the same performance than old Intel CPUs when we're talking about single thread performance, so it's expected that RX5700 enter on starving mode too many times and for too long at 1080p. Not only that, really low clock too. 

 

Unless if he doenst have 2 modules. Dual Channel is a must have. But even that, it's very well know that firts Ryzen CPUs are just too weak.

 

For some reason I had mistaken Ryzen 1900x with old AMD Phenom 1090 CPU. So I changed a lot what I wrote on the first page. Sorry. 

[TheDankKoosh]

5 minutes ago, rodrigoxm49 said:

He's already have 2x8GB 3200Mhz, doesn't?? If so, faster memories will don't help that much at this point. 1900x have roughly the same performance than old Intel CPUs when we're talking about single thread performance, so it's expected that RX5700 enter on starving mode too many times and for too long at 1080p.

 

Unless if he doenst have 2 modules. Dual Channel is a must have. But even that, it's very well know that firts Ryzen CPUs are just too weak.

 

For some reason I had mistaken Ryzen 1900x with old AMD Phenom 1090 CPU. So I changed a lot what I wrote on the first page. Sorry. 

All threadripper products have a quad channel memory controller, so a tuned up 3200mhz quad channel kit would probably benefit a lot along with a core oc. I used first gen ryzen for well over a year and I had no issues on a 1070 ti in terms of bad framerates and frametimes.

[rodrigoxm49]

6 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

All threadripper products have a quad channel memory controller, so a tuned up 3200mhz quad channel kit would probably benefit a lot along with a core oc. I used first gen ryzen for well over a year and I had no issues on a 1070 ti in terms of bad framerates and frametimes.

I don't know, man. I have 1600 for too long to know that it was not a very good CPU on heavily demand games or even midrange GPUs. It's not bad, but definitely wanst enough.

 

Even old RX470 that was bottlenecked on some games. When I changed to i5 9400 for a while, RX470 could finally reach 99% Usage on Wildlands for longer periods. On Ryzen 1600? 70% to 90% only. And here we're talking about a RX470, that have half of the RX5700 performance. At time, 2x3000Mhz memory modules was used.

 

Now I have a Ryzen 2600 (needed for making money) and I need 4.0Ghz plus 3200Mhz on memories to achieve what 9400 could do with stock clock and 3000Mhz memories.

 

Yeah, probably quad channel would help A LOT, but I don't know if it would be enough or cheaper than simply buy a Ryzen 3600.

 

[TheDankKoosh]

Just now, rodrigoxm49 said:

I don't know, man. I have 1600 for too long to know that it was not a very good CPU on heavily demand games or even midrange GPUs. It's not bad, but definitely wanst enough.

 

Even old RX470 that was bottlenecked on some games. When I changed to i5 9600 for a while, RX470 could finally reach 99% Usage on Wildlands for longer periods. On Ryzen 1600? 70% to 90% only. And here we're talking about a RX470, that have half of the RX5700 performance. At time, 2x3000Mhz memory modules was used.

 

Now I have a Ryzen 2600 (good of oportunity) and I need 4.0Ghz plus 3200Mhz on memories to achieve what 9600F could do with stock clock and 3000Mhz memories.

 

 

Did you overclock your r5 1600? Also tuning memory timings had a lot to do with ryzen performance from any generation. I could reach 100% usage with my 1070 ti at 1440p in any game, ryzen is honestly meant for people that know how to extract the most from it.