Rendering... CPU/GPU choice?

[bcredeur97]

My Father is about to start doing some rendering with some software called "Jewelry CAD Dream" (yes, he is a master jeweler, wants to get more work done faster.)

 

I'm fairly certain off my own knowledge what to get for rendering, but the only question I have is should we get a i5-4670K with a GTX 770 (quadro not supported with a lot of jewelry software for some reason?) OR should I go with a i7-4770K with a GTX 760. Thats the only bump in our budget of less than $1450 monitor included(hes more of an apple fan, so i told him he can get an apple KB and mouse if he wants as long as it isn't Bluetooth so its not too much trouble). (It needs to be a relatively small system, so I chose a bitfenix phenom M for the case) I chose a G1 sniper for the mobo, simply because its nice and expandable, and not really that expensive at $180ish.

 

link to the build i have so far: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/bcredeur97/saved/3Qcm

 

link to the software site: http://jewelrycaddream.com/

 

They dont list specs, so we emailed them and got them:

 

Operating Systems-32 or 64bit

Microsoft Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 or 8 

 

Processor to CPU

Recommend configuration: Intel i5 or better or equivalent AMD processor

 

RAM 

 

Recommended configuration: 4GB or better

 

 

Video:

 

Largest monitor you can afford

 

Support OpenGL 3.0 or above

 

Minimum configuration: 1024 x 768 VGA with True Color

 

Recommended configuration: 1280 x 1024 VGA with True Color or better

 

For GPU rendering and animations

 

Nvidia video card with at least 480 Cuda cores for decent performance or better

 

Any posted performance is based on 1050 watt power supply with a Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti graphics card, 

965 i7 3.2 GHz processor with 12GB of RAM

 

 

So just give your thoughts please, and remember the only real question I have is whether to get GTX 770 and i5 or GTX 760 and i7 (or AMD? im open to them as well, just wasn't sure about using them for a mATX build)

[SpaceSquid]

8350. that way you still get a 770.

[Shd0w2]

YOu don't really need an H60 if your just doing jeweling software.I also think the G1's a bit expensive unless he's OCING, but why would he need to? Grab a $100 or less mobo. Also, I think 4gb or 6gb might be enough, and get a 780 with that money saved. Or a 770.

[bcredeur97]

YOu don't really need an H60 if your just doing jeweling software.I also think the G1's a bit expensive unless he's OCING, but why would he need to? Grab a $100 or less mobo. Also, I think 4gb or 6gb might be enough, and get a 780 with that money saved. Or a 770.

so you are saying its far more GPU intensive than CPU??? I like my builds to look nice. Liquid coolers give it that clean look I find. Would probably overclock it anyway... a minor overclock is free performance

[Shd0w2]

so you are saying its far more GPU intensive than CPU??? I like my builds to look nice. Liquid coolers give it that clean look I find. Would probably overclock it anyway... a minor overclock is free performance

I know you like them to look nice, but think if your dad will really care about the look, and the phenom doesn't even have a window? Its a waste of good money for your dad. And for rendering, an 8350 or 4770k is more than enough for a jeweler. Save him some money. He wont notice a difference worth the money for the OC too.

[paulsterio]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($94.97 @ OutletPC) 

Memory:  Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($63.99 @ Best Buy) 

Storage:  Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card:  Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Wireless Network Adapter:  TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($14.99 @ Microcenter) 

Case:  BitFenix Phenom M Midnight Black MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($97.76 @ OutletPC) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor:  Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Microcenter) 

Total: $1314.61

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-25 21:37 EST-0500)

[bcredeur97]

okay the only thing Im not liking with the 8350 is the motherboards... they all seem pretty bad... so 4670K or 4770K???

[Shd0w2]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard:  Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ NCIX US) 

Memory:  A-Data XPG V2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Seagate  2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card:  Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Wireless Network Adapter:  TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($14.99 @ Microcenter) 

Case:  BitFenix Colossus Micro MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($106.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case Fan:  Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($9.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case Fan:  Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($9.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case Fan:  Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-120 40.6 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($9.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 

Monitor:  Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Microcenter) 

Total: $1288.84

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-02-25 21:43 EST-0500)

[Ertman]

^ tiny monitor

[ForsakenLive]

Why don't you get a non K part, and a H87 mobo? Hell, you can even get the Xeon E3-1240 V3 (It's a 4770 without the HD graphics)., get some $80 H87 motherboard and save a ton of money. You could even fit a GTX 780 on this budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/30bds

[bcredeur97]

^ tiny monitor

what do you suggest? 1. it has to be IPS becuase the difference is insane especially sub $200 and 2. dont make it ridiculous

[bcredeur97]

Why don't you get a non K part, and a H87 mobo? Hell, you can even get the Xeon E3-1240 V3 (It's a 4770 without the HD graphics)., get some $80 H87 motherboard and save a ton of money. You could even fit a GTX 780 on this budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/30bds

GENIUS! Xeon! LOL I always forget about the Xeon's

[WoodenMarker]

CAD rendering is pretty much completely cpu dependent for final renders. The gpu is just for view port rendering which is really, really light for jewelry work. 

Edits: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/30bom

 

Why don't you get a non K part, and a H87 mobo? Hell, you can even get the Xeon E3-1240 V3 (It's a 4770 without the HD graphics)., get some $80 H87 motherboard and save a ton of money. You could even fit a GTX 780 on this budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/30bds

There's like..no reason to get a 780 for what the system is being used for..

[Ertman]

what do you suggest? 1. it has to be IPS becuase the difference is insane especially sub $200 and 2. dont make it ridiculous

I'll see if I can suggest something specific tomorrow.

But in the mean time, take a look around on the forums for some budget ips displays, there should be some good suggestions on here somewhere. Below $200, 23+inches should be attainable.

[bcredeur97]

CAD rendering is pretty much completely cpu dependent for final renders. The gpu is just for view port rendering which is really, really light for jewelry work. 

Edits: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/30bom

 

 

There's like..no reason to get a 780 for what the system is being used for..

ok. im going to get a 4770K and a 760. it'll last a long time and is within the budget. I did cut back to a $120 mobo though as well as the adata memory which is cheaper now for some reason. (wasnt when i first started picking) Being that this is software that isnt well known, to prevent something weird from happening Im not going for the xeon, they recommended a consumer grade i7 so thats what im going to do. it'll prevent the slightest chance of a major headache. with the saved money ill probably just get an SSD. CAD stuff doesnt take up much memory correct?

[WoodenMarker]

ok. im going to get a 4770K and a 760. it'll last a long time and is within the budget. I did cut back to a $120 mobo though as well as the adata memory which is cheaper now for some reason. (wasnt when i first started picking) Being that this is software that isnt well known, to prevent something weird from happening Im not going for the xeon, they recommended a consumer grade i7 so thats what im going to do. it'll prevent the slightest chance of a major headache. with the saved money ill probably just get an SSD. CAD stuff doesnt take up much memory correct?

It would be a waste of money if you're not oc'ing and considering what the system is being used for. Saving the extra money for future upgrades would last longer than paying more than you need to on tech that loses value over time to cheaper and better tech as time passes. 

There's nothing the i7 can run that the xeon can't... If there would be any issues, it'd be the other way around. They're almost the same exact chip. 

CAD can take up a good deal of memory but 8GB is perfectly fine for what you have mentioned the system is being used for.

If you're getting a ssd, get a normal hdd instead of the sshd.

[bcredeur97]

It would be a waste of money if you're not oc'ing and considering what the system is being used for. Saving the extra money for future upgrades would last longer than paying more than you need to on tech that loses value over time to cheaper and better tech as time passes. 

There's nothing the i7 can run that the xeon can't... If there would be any issues, it'd be the other way around. They're almost the same exact chip. 

CAD can take up a good deal of memory but 8GB is perfectly fine for what you have mentioned the system is being used for.

If you're getting a ssd, get a normal hdd instead of the sshd.

okay then. ill trust you on that. so get a 120 GB ssd and a 2TB HDD sound ok?

[WoodenMarker]

okay then. ill trust you on that. so get a 120 GB ssd and a 2TB HDD sound ok?

Sounds fine. 

[bcredeur97]

Sounds fine. 

thank you so much!

[Ertman]

what do you suggest? 1. it has to be IPS becuase the difference is insane especially sub $200 and 2. dont make it ridiculous

 

Asus VN248H (135)

...

Dell U2312HM (199)

 

There are a lot of decent option in between, feel free to consult the forums. I wouldn't necessarily go much higher in size without increasing budget, as the pixels size starts to become distracting depending on distance away from monitor.