Ram compatibly please help

[JJ_J]

Hi, I but my new pc a few months ago and I'm still having some ram issues. I've figured out that my ram is not listed in the motherboard QVL, to be clear, my ram is listed but the version is different, I have the CMK16GX4M2B3200C16(Ver5.32) form my old build. Being impossible to know which version of ram amazon is going to ship, if the correct one (4.24) or another one my old ram is a no go. Any suggestions for a good and table ram? 

 

MOBO Asus Tuf-gaming x570-Plus
CPU Ryzen 7 3700x

 

Thanks 

[Haro]

The compatibility list is vague and not accurate as the manufacturer can't test every single module 

It should work just fine 

[JJ_J]

@TofuHaroto Is it a good ram? Case a soon as I started reading about ram I found out about A-die B-die, and quality, and all those things, and I'm kinda confused if I'm getting good ram or trash. 

[Haro]

B die is a high quality dram type that is binned 

Those ram modules are ok but I recommend the trident z for a higher quality Samsung b die chips 

Edited May 26, 2020 by TofuHaroto
Typo

[JJ_J]

@TofuHaroto

So this module (F4-3200C16D-16GTZRX) should be fine right? 

Because that kit is not listed in the QVL but the  F4-3200C16D-16GTZR is listed, should the X at the end specific for Ryzen processors?

 

Sorry to bother you, but I'm so confused!!

 

[Haro]

5 minutes ago, JJ_J said:

@TofuHaroto

So this module (F4-3200C16D-16GTZRX) should be fine right? 

Because that kit is not listed in the QVL but the  F4-3200C16D-16GTZR is listed, should the X at the end specific for Ryzen processors?

 

Sorry to bother you, but I'm so confused!!

 

Technically the list shouldn't matter but if you want to be extra safe just get the one that is listed 

[Nena Trinity]

Does it not boot? If it let's you boot up BIOS have you tried setting the RAM speed and latency manually? If that doesn't work then the board may be the issue if the RAM worked in another PC before... OwO

 

edit: jedec mode also does not work? Then I suspect the board is broken...

Edited May 26, 2020 by Nena360

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Does it not boot? If it let's you boot up BIOS have you tried setting the RAM speed and latency manually? If that doesn't work then the board may be the issue if the RAM worked in another PC before... OwO 

I'm pretty sure OP didn't order the modules yet

[Nena Trinity]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

I'm pretty sure OP didn't order the modules yet

The slap em in its a 95% chance all is good! O3O

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

O3O

This is a new one

[JJ_J]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

Does it not boot? If it let's you boot up BIOS have you tried setting the RAM speed and latency manually? If that doesn't work then the board may be the issue if the RAM worked in another PC before... OwO

 

edit: jedec mode also does not work? Then I suspect the board is broken...

So let be clear cause maybe I made a little mess. And I'm sorry about that.

I have 16 GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16(Ver5.32)), those two sticks come from my old Intel built with an i5 7500 and they worked perfectly, but I only used them at 3000MHz for MOBO limitation, on the new build they are unstable, I've tried everything to make them work, every manual config. I even called Asus. But the pc sometimes still doesn't boot (CPU fan on, case fans on, RGB on but no video at all, not even BIOS) and the MOBO light for the ram stays on, telling me there's a ram problem. If I reboot a few times the Pc starts and from there is super stable. So I figured it's a ram stability issue more than a MOBO problem. Am I wrong? 

The pc is stable in booting and everything if I ran the ram at stock speed 

 

Then I've tried to figure out which ram is better, so here I am asking for help, LOL! 

[Haro]

Oh well this is easy

Did you try updating the bios

[JJ_J]

9 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Oh well this is easy

Did you try updating the bios

It's been the first thing I did after booting the PC to be fair, before setting up memory clock and everything, I updated the BIOS and than, OC the ram...

Is that the problem?

[Haro]

12 minutes ago, JJ_J said:

It's been the first thing I did after booting the PC to be fair, before setting up memory clock and everything, I updated the BIOS and than, OC the ram...

Is that the problem?

No it's not 

Did you try 1 stick at a time ?

[JJ_J]

 

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

No it's not 

Did you try 1 stick at a time ?

Yes I did, and ad stock speed they seem to work perfectly

[Haro]

Just now, JJ_J said:

 

Yes I did, and ad stock speed they seem to work perfectly

Try 1 stick with dcop/ xmp and check 

[JJ_J]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Try 1 stick with dcop/ xmp and check 

As soon as I'll get home I'll try, do you think is a MOBO problem more than a ram problem?

[Haro]

Just now, JJ_J said:

As soon as I'll get home I'll try, do you think is a MOBO problem more than a ram problem?

Don't know 

If the one stick works it could be either one or maybe a bad imc but hopefully it's just bad bios

[JJ_J]

10 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Don't know 

If the one stick works it could be either one or maybe a bad imc but hopefully it's just bad bios

Thanks, let's hope is not the MOBO but anyway I bought it on Amazon with prime so, I can always ask for a replacement. 

I'll let you know as soon as I get home and try every single stick! 

Thanks a lot! 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, JJ_J said:

I'll let you know as soon as I get home and try every single stick! 

Thanks a lot! 

Good luck

[JJ_J]

@TofuHaroto

So, test done here's what I found:

Stick A: On 3 boots at 3200 MHz 2 done and 1 failed (rebooted and started). On 3 boots at 2133 MHz 3 out of 3 were good.

Stick B: On 3 boots at 3200 MHz 0 done at first boot, need to use the restart button every time. On 3 boot at 2133 MHz 1 good 2 failed and need a reboot.

 

With one stick every fan at boot spin at 50%

With two sticks every fan at boot spin at 100%

 

What do you think?

[Haro]

Then can you if possible do the same maybe with another rig 

[JJ_J]

50 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Then can you if possible do the same maybe with another rig 

Unfortunately I don't have another PC to fin the ram and push them to 3200 MHz.

Do you still think it may be the MOBO? 

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, JJ_J said:

Unfortunately I don't have another PC to fin the ram and push them to 3200 MHz.

Do you still think it may be the MOBO? 

Still not sure what it is if it is the mobo or the ram or even the imc 

[JJ_J]

25 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Still not sure what it is if it is the mobo or the ram or even the imc 

Maybe I could order some quality ram from amazon, I'll test them out and if they have te same  problem I could send them back and ask for a MOBO replacement? Could this be a solution? 

 

Because as always the MOBO says the problem is the ram when the pc don't boot, so maybe it really is the ram?