Ryzen 5 2600, RX 580 8G - Fluctuating GPU Usage and FPS

[Gazzar]

Alright, so, briefly I have a Ryzen 5 2600 with the stock cooler, running it at stock speed, never even tried to overclock it because it's more than enough for me, few days ago I bought a RX 580, it's the XFX 8GB XXX one, upgrading from a puny 1050 3gb thinking that it would be a massive performance increase (realistically ofc) but I actually found almost zero difference, like, am getting 50 fps in gta online on all low settings

 

The exact situation is:

My FPS is not as expected in many games, , I went ahead and did all my homework, made sure that my temps are good, made sure I had the latest drivers (Also tried DDU because I installed AMD drivers before uninstalling nvidia's one, so I DDU'ed both and reinstalled). The cpu usage is perfect, I think, (Across all threads its like an average of 20-30 with a couple of them reaching 60 at best). My ram is 2400mhz 2x8 (in the right slots), however they are just the generic green bare pcb kingston ram, I got a slight feeling that this is the issue but I really wanted to make sure before going all out on a new kit. Since XMP isnt supported on those ones I manually applied the right values in bios after noticing the issue thinking that it might be the issue, and according to CPU-z they are running at their rated speeds (which arent great anyway)

Few more details,

Bios version is the default one, never updated it. Chipset drivers are uptodate, I didn't overclock the gpu, the gpu is running at 1366 which is what expected, gpu is 60 degrees at best, cpu 60-70 degrees. 

600W PSU, MSI b450 tomahawk mobo, the os is on ssd but the games are on a hdd. I am running the high performance power plan and I made sure that the PCI express related power management setting is off as I saw many recommend.

 

pls!

[Gazzar]

oh i just noticed I wrote briefly at the beginning 

 

in a nuttshell, my gpu usage is all over the place, every thing is probably on point except for the ram, can it be the issue?

[SavageNeo]

the ram seems really bad. 2400mhz is really bad pseed for yoúr ryzen. what latency (cl) does your ram have?

[191x7]

Flash the latest BIOS. AGESA updates do bring improvements.

 

Update DirectX using DxWebSetup.

 

When you say latest chipset drivers, you do think of those from the AMD-s website or are you reffering to the old ones from MSI?

Also, are you familiar that the recent chipset drivers, sort of, require the latest AGESA to function properly?

 

Are you running 1080p or higher?

[Gazzar]

Just now, SavageNeo said:

the ram seems really bad. 2400mhz is really bad pseed for yoúr ryzen. what latency (cl) does your ram have?

cl-17

[Gazzar]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

Flash the latest BIOS. AGESA updates do bring improvements.

 

Update DirectX using DxWebSetup.

 

When you say latest chipset drivers, you do think of those from the AMD-s website or are you reffering to the old ones from MSI?

Also, are you familiar that the recent chipset drivers, sort of, require the latest AGESA to function properly?

 

Are you running 1080p or higher?

Running 1080p, I will give it a shot tho

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Gazzar said:

cl-17

that is really bad. that would be the same as 3600mhz cl23

[Gazzar]

7 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

that is really bad. that would be the same as 3600mhz cl23

Yeah man I know it's trash, but I never knew that it could have such a big impact on gpu performance, I will probably try updating the bios etc first, but if nothing changed, I will just yolo a decent ram kit, really appreciate the help bruv!

[SavageNeo]

5 minutes ago, Gazzar said:

Yeah man I know it's trash, but I never knew that it could have such a big impact on gpu performance, I will probably try updating the bios etc first, but if nothing changed, I will just yolo a decent ram kit, really appreciate the help bruv!

if that doesnt help report back here.

[Gazzar]

3 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

if that doesnt help report back here.

aight man, a 2x8 3000mhz cl16 kit from corsair, would that be decent? Excuse my ignorance, I never had to go precisely shopping for ram b4 in my life, I was just getting w/e works thinking it would have very minimal impact

[SavageNeo]

3 minutes ago, Gazzar said:

aight man, a 2x8 3000mhz cl16 kit from corsair, would that be decent? Excuse my ignorance, I never had to go precisely shopping for ram b4 in my life, I was just getting w/e works thinking it would have very minimal impact

what country you buying from. corsair 3000mzh cl16 kits are usually overpriced.

[Gazzar]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

what country you buying from. corsair 3000mzh cl16 kits are usually overpriced.

Egypt, the 16gb kit is for like..75 dollars, that's overpriced or?

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Gazzar said:

Egypt, the 16gb kit is for like..75 dollars, that's overpriced or?

decent price. try that kit. remember to enable XMP profile in bios

[Gazzar]

Just now, SavageNeo said:

decent price. try that kit. remember to enable XMP profile in bios

will do mate, will provide an update once I do so

[191x7]

10 minutes ago, Gazzar said:

will do mate, will provide an update once I do so

Wait, don't go for it yet until you're sure it's the RAM.

 

Watch this:

Old vide, but gold.

 

Also, you can use Ryzen DRAM calculator and Memory Taiphoon to find the voltages, timings and clocks to get your RAM to 3000 or above.

[Gazzar]

8 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Wait, don't go for it yet until you're sure it's the RAM.

 

Watch this:

Old vide, but gold.

 

Also, you can use Ryzen DRAM calculator and Memory Taiphoon to find the voltages, timings and clocks to get your RAM to 3000 or above.

I will check it and attempt the bios update once am home, imma keep the ram upgrade as a last resort...but we all know that sooner or later imma upgrade that ram so it doesnt hurt either ways ty mate :D

[Gazzar]

Quick update,

Updating BIOS did absolutely nothing, matter of fact it gave me anxiety attacks cuz i was so worried of a power interruption or somethin XD. By the way I just noticed that my CPU is now getting alot hotter than before upgrading to the 580, and by a lot hotter I mean the average increased from 60 degrees with the 1050 to 70 degrees with the 580, does that make sense or does it ring an alarm? I didn't touch the cpu during the swap, physically or software-wise. And no it's not airflow, I checked.

 

 

Edit: By the way I ran some GPU benchmarks, and the gpu is actually performing above expectations, getting a better score than the average on multiple benchmarks. So, during the benchmark it's drawing all the power it needs and staying at a 100% stably and getting the best scores but in gaming it's way too unstable, what does that mean?

[Gazzar]

Final update,

I've attempted every given solution, nothing changed. Then I started testing a variety of other games, and turns out that the issue is only when it comes to some open world games, as an example, GTA V the usage was all over the place, so was the fps on all low settings, but in Rainbow six siege the usage was stuck at 100% with perfect FPS, exactly as expected all on high/ultra settings, so it might just be the optimization of some games, I would call this resolved and thank you all for the tips, it sure helped alot and made me understand alot more about ram.