B550 vs X570

[Shasmic]

As a "mid level" enthusiast gamer and pc builder, would you say that the B550 motherboards have everything I am looking for, or should I dish out the extra money to grab a X570?

[Jurrunio]

X570 minus workstation characteristics (increased bandwidth from chipset and PCIe 4 on chipset) = B550, so for gamer there's no point for X570 other than the fact that you can buy it right now, not B550.

[Jumballi]

x570 is overpriced for even enthusiast users, plain and simple

[Shasmic]

5 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

x570 is overpriced for even enthusiast users, plain and simple

Do you think x570 boards will come down in price when B550s hit the shelves after a bit?

[frenzen]

When are b550s coming? I am wondering if I should wait or buy b450 now

[Shasmic]

2 minutes ago, frenzen said:

When are b550s coming? I am wondering if I should wait or buy b450 now

They will start to be sold in July if I am not mistaken.

[frenzen]

2 minutes ago, Shasmic said:

They will start to be sold in July if I am not mistaken.

Ah ty. Is there a reason to wait for b550 though? What features are they going to have that b450 will not?

[Jumballi]

13 minutes ago, frenzen said:

Ah ty. Is there a reason to wait for b550 though? What features are they going to have that b450 will not?

better cpu power delivery for higher clock speeds, only good for 3900x or higher imo, the 3700x is more than fine since it doesn't use as much power
pcie 4.0, which absolutely nothing uses, the 2080 ti barely uses more than 8 lanes on 3.0, let alone the 16 it can get from the 24 that any ryzen chip can give it.

 

27 minutes ago, Shasmic said:

Do you think x570 boards will come down in price when B550s hit the shelves after a bit?

Hell no, that's just more of a reason to stop making the low end x570 boards that are rarely recommended and are more likely to fail.
Also most of the cost comes in from the first time attempting to implement pcie 4.0, which does mean they're more experienced with implementing it for b550, but they can't go back and make new manufacturing chains for x570. Look at the intel z490 line, literally $100 more than the previous boards because the lanes are in theory pcie 4.0 compliant for the first time.

[frenzen]

On 5/22/2020 at 6:38 PM, Jumballi said:

better cpu power delivery for higher clock speeds, only good for 3900x or higher imo, the 3700x is more than fine since it doesn't use as much power
pcie 4.0, which absolutely nothing uses, the 2080 ti barely uses more than 8 lanes on 3.0, let alone the 16 it can get from the 24 that any ryzen chip can give it.

 

Hell no, that's just more of a reason to stop making the low end x570 boards that are rarely recommended and are more likely to fail.
Also most of the cost comes in from the first time attempting to implement pcie 4.0, which does mean they're more experienced with implementing it for b550, but they can't go back and make new manufacturing chains for x570. Look at the intel z490 line, literally $100 more than the previous boards because the lanes are in theory pcie 4.0 compliant for the first time.

what is the best b450 motherboard for overclocking, i looked at the this list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

but b450 are considered tier C and the best ones are , B450 Gaming Pro Carbon, Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), B450-A Pro (& Max) (ATX), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX. Any advice?