New PC build feedback

[Gardenia]

Budget (including currency): $7-8,000 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: This will be Gaming (VR) build only

Other details: don't need keyboard, mouse etc have existing Acer Predator XB270HU27" IPC 160mz

 

My mate is wanting to build a new PC and has quite a bit of money to spend... This machine will be for gaming only. The main games he plays are FPS (Modern Warfare, BF5, Apex, Overwatch etc).

 

The biggest thing we are struggling with this build is if we should go down the AMD (CPU) path or Intel (Gen10). The difficulty as i'm sure you are all aware is getting access to stock. For tax reasons he needs to buy this before June 30th.

 

We have considered RTX 2080ti (2x) but from what I have been reading the additional card is not going to provide a big performance boost (happy to be wrong). This is not a long term build (will be replaced in 2 years). So he is not worried about missing out on the next card, cpu etc.

 

So yeah any thoughts on AMD vs Intel on the CPU side of things? and then the best RTX 2080ti you can get basically. We are looking at the EVGA FTW3 at the moment. 

 

 

 

[TrigrH]

a single RTX 2080ti and 10900K with that kinda budget.

[SavageNeo]

i would build this now and save the rest money for next gen rtx gpus and next gen ryzen cpus:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor	$999.00 @ PCCaseGear
CPU Cooler	Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$232.35 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$829.00 @ Austin Computers
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$342.10 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Silicon Power 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$239.80 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$97.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$2199.00 @ Centre Com
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$159.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$129.00 @ Skycomp Technology
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$5226.25
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 17:38 AEST+1000

 

[MartinKweh]

ive read somewhere that the 10900k requires a 360mm AIO MINIMUM which is kinda alarming. is it true though?

[F.E.A.R.]

5 minutes ago, MartinKweh said:

ive read somewhere that the 10900k requires a 360mm AIO MINIMUM which is kinda alarming. is it true though?

Yes because at stock clock speeds, the CPU reaches 63C° and at 5.1GHz it reaches 83C° with the best 360mm AIO's out there to cool it. It also comes at huge power draw above 200W.

[MartinKweh]

Just now, F.E.A.R. said:

Yes because at stock clock speeds, the CPU reaches 63C° and at 5.1GHz it reaches 83C°. You'll need the best 360mm AIO's out there to cool it. It also comes at huge power draw above 200W.

#yiykes.

[F.E.A.R.]

Just now, MartinKweh said:

#yiykes.

Yup. Even if it is the best CPU for gaming, I wouldn't buy it. I'd go with the 3900X even if it makes 20-40 FPS difference at 1080p gaming. The thing is, when you scale the resolution up, like 1440p, the difference between 10900K and the 3900X is very small. 10-20 FPS difference at max.

[gloop]

9 minutes ago, F.E.A.R. said:

Yes because at stock clock speeds, the CPU reaches 63C° and at 5.1GHz it reaches 83C° with the best 360mm AIO's out there to cool it. It also comes at huge power draw above 200W.

Has someone done test with a nh-d15? Cause if you reach 83C your reaching custom loop territory for lower temps. 

[F.E.A.R.]

2 minutes ago, gloop said:

Has someone done test with a nh-d15? Cause if you reach 83C your reaching custom loop territory for lower temps. 

Nope not yet. I searched but everyone likes to slap a 360mm AIO on it to test it and forget something like the Noctua NH-D15 and the DeepCool Assassin III exist.

[Guest]

If he wants value for money, then go Ryzen. If he doesn't care about that, and wants the highest fps possible then go with a 10900K and a 2080 ti. Just be aware that this is technically a new platform, so there will be bugs/bios issues etc until things get ironed out.

[gloop]

18 minutes ago, F.E.A.R. said:

Nope not yet. I searched but everyone likes to slap a 360mm AIO on it to test it and forget something like the Noctua NH-D15 and the DeepCool Assassin III exist.

Yeah, I'm usually an advocate of air because of the extremely low failure rates. If they had something like an alphacool rad with noctuas at full blast I wonder how the temps/noise levels would be.

[F.E.A.R.]

32 minutes ago, gloop said:

Yeah, I'm usually an advocate of air because of the extremely low failure rates. If they had something like an alphacool rad with noctuas at full blast I wonder how the temps/noise levels would be.

Same. While water cooling looks aesthetically pleasing, I prefer air cooling, like you said, mainly because, it's rare for an air cooler to fail. I'm interested how the 10900K temps would be if it were tested in the Core V71 Tempered Glass Edition with 200mm Noctua fans slapped, with the NH-DS15.