RAM Problem

[Haro]

1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yea, it's a fun hobby.

Expensive though. Well at least new hardware is.

it kinda is but it is somewhat easy to learn (technically) 

at least for me

i have been learning it for 3 years ish 

i think im average or a little below that

anyways this is a bit off topic lol  

[Zektbach]

6 hours ago, nick name said:

So you said it wouldn't boot when you increased DRAM voltage and you're running it on Auto now?

 

6 hours ago, nick name said:

Is it hard to get things in the Philippines?  

Yes. I enabled XMP, Disabled MFB and leave the voltage at auto. Right now, our place in the Philippines is in lockdown so I really can’t go out. Also because of the rule of 7 days - Return/Refund Policy. 
 

6 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

No idea. That's all on him those decisions. 

I just try to point in the right direction for a better experience.

 

Since he's looking to get some performance, he needs a different kit of memory.

 

Or

 

We could help him target better performance at 3200mt/s, But I have a feeling that memory will still be difficult to work with even at that speed.

 

I’m willing to do the latter if you have time to help me  I don’t wanna remove that CMOS battery again, gives me headache lol. 

[Guest]

Just now, Zektbach said:

 

I’m willing to do the latter if you have time to help me  I don’t wanna remove that CMOS battery again, gives me headache lol. 

Generally if there is a failure to boot from memory tweaking, the board will attempt settings 3 times and post on the forth in "safe mode". 

So if you wait long enough, the above process can take a few minutes, and sometimes just a restart can get the post count restarted. So wait at least 180 seconds.

 

Start off at what you can post at 3200mhz. 

Post screen shots of the timings and what changes you made to accomplish it. 

We would proceed from there. 

Memory tweaking must be tested to ensure stability. It will not be a 1 2 3 deal.

[Zektbach]

3 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Generally if there is a failure to boot from memory tweaking, the board will attempt settings 3 times and post on the forth in "safe mode". 

So if you wait long enough, the above process can take a few minutes, and sometimes just a restart can get the post count restarted. So wait at least 180 seconds.

 

Start off at what you can post at 3200mhz. 

Post screen shots of the timings and what changes you made to accomplish it. 

We would proceed from there. 

Memory tweaking must be tested to ensure stability. It will not be a 1 2 3 deal.

Yeah I’ve waited long enough yesterday I think. What happened is after I set the timings, computer rebooted, PC booted and just stays black. So what should I do first? 
 

Set my freq to 3200mhz in bios - read thru thaiphoon burner and export to dram calculator? (Sorry I have no idea about this) 

[Guest]

Taiphoon buner wont help.

We will only change the primary timings.

 

Just put in 3200mhz and leave everything on auto except the memory voltage you can change that to 1.350v

[Zektbach]

29 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Taiphoon buner wont help.

We will only change the primary timings.

 

Just put in 3200mhz and leave everything on auto except the memory voltage you can change that to 1.350v

 

Okay so here's what I did, since it was set to 3600mhz - XMP enabled before.

Booted to BIOS restore default settings > save and restart > booted up to bios again, set ram freq to 3200mhz. 

 

How do I screenshot the timings? 

https://imgur.com/YSfy8i3

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Zektbach said:

 

Okay so here's what I did, since it was set to 3600mhz - XMP enabled before.

Booted to BIOS restore default settings > save and restart > booted up to bios again, set ram freq to 3200mhz. 

 

How do I screenshot the timings? 

https://imgur.com/YSfy8i3

That's good. 

The timings that are 22, you want to manually change to 20. Then restart and test. Hope they go.

[Zektbach]

2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

That's good. 

The timings that are 22, you want to manually change to 20. Then restart and test. Hope they go.

Wait, all of them 20?

What are the values that I need to change? lol 

tCL

tRCDWDR

tRCDRD

tRP

tRAS?

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, Zektbach said:

Wait, all of them 20?

Yea. 18-20-20-20

opposed to

The, 18-22-22-22

you will only change Trcd and Trp timings.

[Zektbach]

30 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yea. 18-20-20-20

opposed to

The, 18-22-22-22

you will only change Trcd and Trp timings.

If you don't mind, can we talk on discord or steam? lolol 

 

I changed only 4 timings. Not included tRAS and leave voltage on auto. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Zektbach said:

If you don't mind, can we talk on discord or steam? lolol 

I don't have a mic unfortunately. 

My target for you is 16-18-18-18 

But need to start small because you don't have an easy way to clear cmos. 

Work your way down the timings slowly. 

 

If you have an old case switch, you can plug that into the cmos jumpers and have a remote cmos switch.

[Zektbach]

2 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I don't have a mic unfortunately. 

My target for you is 16-18-18-18 

But need to start small because you don't have an easy way to clear cmos. 

Work your way down the timings slowly. 

 

If you have an old case switch, you can plug that into the cmos jumpers and have a remote cmos switch.

I meant not mic, we can just chat over there to have faster comms.

 

So my computer successfully booted up at 

18-20-20-20.

 

Should I also leave my voltage on auto?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Zektbach said:

I meant not mic, we can just chat over there to have faster comms.

 

So my computer successfully booted up at 

18-20-20-20.

 

Should I also leave my voltage on auto?

No you want to manually set that to 1.35v

 

[Zektbach]

6 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

No you want to manually set that to 1.35v

 

It was also successful at 16-18-18-18 with 1.35v 

https://imgur.com/GiR3pA7 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Zektbach said:

It was also successful at 16-18-18-18 with 1.35v 

https://imgur.com/GiR3pA7 

Good.

DL app OCCT and run linpack. Select high amount of RAM I usually do about 12GB. Can check logical cores for a cpu beat down or leave unchecked will run cpu 50%. Loading the memory is the test though.

 

If it passes a good hour, try next timings 16-16-16-16 and test.

[Zektbach]

25 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Good.

DL app OCCT and run linpack. Select high amount of RAM I usually do about 12GB. Can check logical cores for a cpu beat down or leave unchecked will run cpu 50%. Loading the memory is the test though.

 

If it passes a good hour, try next timings 16-16-16-16 and test.

Alright will update you later.

Also the shop where I bought it said they can replace it, with the SAME BRAND and MODEL. 

But I'm doubting my self to remove Dark Rock Pro 4 since I have no idea how to remove the outer fan

[Zektbach]

2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Good.

DL app OCCT and run linpack. Select high amount of RAM I usually do about 12GB. Can check logical cores for a cpu beat down or leave unchecked will run cpu 50%. Loading the memory is the test though.

 

If it passes a good hour, try next timings 16-16-16-16 and test.

Here? https://imgur.com/YRPRFNb

 

crap, my computer wont boot again. 
 

 

[Guest]

Looks good there. Much better performance.

 

What of the no post?

 

Sry. At wotk. Reaponses will be delayed as a result.

[Zektbach]

48 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Looks good there. Much better performance.

 

What of the no post?

 

Sry. At wotk. Reaponses will be delayed as a result.

I went back to 16-18-18-18. 
I tried 16-16-16-16 and computer wont boot. Motherboard has the red light led steady (even if i waited for like 5 mins. Had to go through the cmos battery again. I’m not sure why the screwdriver method doesn’t work)

Tomorrow I’ll have to exchange my ram with the same model and brand. Will update you after I install it  

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, Zektbach said:

I went back to 16-18-18-18. 
I tried 16-16-16-16 and computer wont boot. Motherboard has the red light led steady (even if i waited for like 5 mins. Had to go through the cmos battery again. I’m not sure why the screwdriver method doesn’t work)

Tomorrow I’ll have to exchange my ram with the same model and brand. Will update you after I install it  

Oh good deal. 

 

Which same model. Of what you are using now or the other ones?

[Zektbach]

Same what I’m using right now. 
g.skill trident z neo 16gb 3600mhz. I guess i can’t exchange it to lower speed ram 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Zektbach said:

Same what I’m using right now. 
g.skill trident z neo 16gb 3600mhz. I guess i can’t exchange it to lower speed ram 

The memory I linked you is the same speed just a much higher bin of samsung B-Die.

 

The same sticks are going to give you the same problems though. You may just be wasting time there.....

[Zektbach]

10 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The memory I linked you is the same speed just a much higher bin of samsung B-Die.

 

The same sticks are going to give you the same problems though. You may just be wasting time there.....

They’ve wanted to know if it is just a faulty ram. I got it installed now and turned on XMP. Should i do the linpack again?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Zektbach said:

They’ve wanted to know if it is just a faulty ram. I got it installed now and turned on XMP. Should i do the linpack again?

Well yea! Give it a go!

[Zektbach]

Same settings?