Ram overclocking

[Wavguy]

Hello, I am building my first PC, and I have bought a box of G. Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 memory, but I am not sure if this is enough for my system. I have been told that this ram has slow timings if I want to overclock the ram, its a CL 16-18-18-38 and I am running i9 9900k RTX 2080 TI so I am curious if I have made a big mistake and gotten a slow ram here.

[boggy77]

it's decent, don't worry about it. you can spend $100 more on faster ram and it will make 1% difference.

[Haro]

46 minutes ago, Wavguy said:

Hello, I am building my first PC, and I have bought a box of G. Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 memory, but I am not sure if this is enough for my system. I have been told that this ram has slow timings if I want to overclock the ram, its a CL 16-18-18-38 and I am running i9 9900k RTX 2080 TI so I am curious if I have made a big mistake and gotten a slow ram here.

The trident z is some of the best ram in the market since it's Samsung b die I has alot of potential interms of ocing so don't worry 

[Wavguy]

where does the speed matter?

[Haro]

30 minutes ago, Wavguy said:

where does the speed matter?

If you mean in what tasks does it matter not alot

It doesn't matter for gaming since chache latency on intel cpu's is really good but it only matters when your writing or reading off of a drive etc 

[Wavguy]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

If you mean in what tasks does it matter not alot

It doesn't matter for gaming since chache latency on intel cpu's is really good but it only matters when your writing or reading off of a drive etc 

So faster ram frequency equals better write and read because I have seen a lot of people comparing ram speed when playing games that certainly don't make sense if ram doesn’t have any impact on games.

[Haro]

17 minutes ago, Wavguy said:

So faster ram frequency equals better write and read because I have seen a lot of people comparing ram speed when playing games that certainly don't make sense if ram doesn’t have any impact on games.

they were usually comparing ram speeds with ryzen which does have a pretty big chache latency but you should atleast get to the advertised speed for your sticks or 2933 which is the max that your memory controller supports 

[Wavguy]

would there be any possibility that this ram can become a b-die because I can’t find anything about.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, Wavguy said:

would there be any possibility that this ram can become a b-die because I can’t find anything about.

It won't "become" Samsung b die 

It comes b die out of the box lol

All jokes aside it could be Samsung b die but the only way of knowing if the silicon is binned is by actually ocing it

[Haro]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

It won't "become" Samsung b die 

It comes b die out of the box lol

All jokes aside it could be Samsung b die but the only way of knowing if the silicon is binned is by actually ocing it

But the trident z 

From my understanding comes with Samsung b die all the time (that's why there is a price premium for it ) so you won't have to worry about that 

 

[Wavguy]

On 5/11/2020 at 3:28 PM, TofuHaroto said:

But the trident z 

From my understanding comes with Samsung b die all the time (that's why there is a price premium for it ) so you won't have to worry about that 

 

can i oc it beyond 3600 with this specific ram?

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, Wavguy said:

can i oc it beyond 3600 with this specific ram?

Technically you can but you won't need to 

3200 for the 9900k is still damn good and while the 9900k has a good imc so ocing will be easy especially compared to zen (God it's bad ) you won't notice any improvement maybe a slight latency improvement but nothing significant plus you will need to up the voltage and it will be a hassle

[Wavguy]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

Technically you can but you won't need to 

3200 for the 9900k is still damn good and while the 9900k has a good imc so ocing will be easy especially compared to zen (God it's bad ) you won't notice any improvement maybe a slight latency improvement but nothing significant plus you will need to up the voltage and it will be a hassle

So you did mention they come b-die. Because of the price, but I am uncertain due to mixed talk, it’s not b-die, and if it’s b-die it’s a trash, b-die which means that I Probably won’t be able to oc it beyond 3600, there are other people with the same kit claiming that it won’t go over 3466 if it’s b-die I mean who are you supposed to side with at this point?

[Haro]

Just now, Wavguy said:

So you did mention they come b-die. Because of the price, but I am uncertain due to mixed talk, it’s not b-die, and if it’s b-die it’s a trash, b-die which means that I Probably won’t be able to oc it beyond 3600, there are other people with the same kit claiming that it won’t go over 3466 if it’s b-die I mean who are you supposed to side with at this point?

There are some kits that come with other dram chips but for the most part it is paired with b die just make sure to read the specs list of the ram just to be sure 

[Nena Trinity]

Step 1: Do it from BIOS

Step 2: Insert MHz and timings

Step 3: Memtest 86 for a day to verify stability and make sure YOU DO NOT BOOT INTO WINDOWS!!! Until it say all is OK.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Step 1: Do it from BIOS

Step 2: Insert MHz and timings

Step 3: Memtest 86 for a day to verify stability and make sure YOU DO NOT BOOT INTO WINDOWS!!! Until it say all is OK.

^ after you check the dram type do this