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Seeking Upgrade Advice

Hi all,

 

I was hoping to ask for some advice with upgrading my system, as I'm not too good when it comes to hardware. My motherboard and CPU are getting pretty old (Intel i7-3770k and an Asus P8 Z77-V Deluxe), so I figured it was about time to start looking at an upgrade. At the moment, I plan to recycle the GPU (This will be upgraded later), PSU and storage from my current system. I'll also be buying a new case but I haven't picked one yet. I figure that I can do this to cut down on cost and allow me to go for more higher end parts (At the moment I don't have a set budget, as long as its not absurdly high). This is primarily meant to be used as a gaming PC, but also for more mundane tasks like basic development work.

 

These are the parts I was planning to purchase:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£381.93 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£79.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£412.74 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£198.63 @ Newegg UK) 
Total: £993.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-28 15:20 BST+0100

 

This means that when combined with recycled parts from my current rig, I would have a system with these specs:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£381.93 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£79.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£412.74 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£198.63 @ Newegg UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Video Card

PSU (Not listed on PCPartPicker): Corsair CX750M

 

Does anyone have any suggestions, such as additional new parts to buy, or any substitutions to make? Also, with regards to the prices of these parts being above normal because of the coof, would it be worth purchasing now, or waiting until things get back to normal?

 

Thanks in advance!

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i would go with this instead. i see no reason to spend so much on the motherboard.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor £381.93 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard £274.99 @ AWD-IT
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £182.98 @ Newegg UK
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Video Card  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £839.90
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-28 15:35 BST+0100  

 

 

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25 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i would go with this instead. i see no reason to spend so much on the motherboard.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor £381.93 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard £274.99 @ AWD-IT
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £182.98 @ Newegg UK
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Video Card  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £839.90
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-28 15:35 BST+0100  

 

 

Thanks for the advice, I'll go with the suggestions you've made and change my plans accordingly.

14 minutes ago, kyn1972 said:

If you have a little wiggle room you can fit a Geforce 1660 super into that now.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CnpmP6/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-oc-video-card-gv-n166soc-6gd

Thanks for the heads up, I'll make a note and when I get to the GPU, I'll check this one out

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Hmmm. I see a lot of possibly wasted money.

You didn't tell us what you use your PC for, so really none of the advice you've been given can be that helpful; we need to know how you use your system.

 

Just based off of your list without knowing what you use it for, I'd say the motherboard is probably a bit overkill (very few people actually need a motherboard that costs that much), and I'd take a look at your PSU as well. If it's close to the end of it's warranty, I'd replace it.

Current PC:

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Just giving a quick follow up on this thread, I've taken on board the advice that was given by boggy77, and all of the parts have arrived and are now inside a Phanteks Eclipse P400A. The build went very well, but during the build, like an idiot, I managed to drop my 3TB HDD onto the floor and that is no longer reading. Fortunately, that only had my games on it, so it could have been much worse.

 

I had a few follow up questions now that the current step has been completed:

  • I'm looking to replace my now dead hard drive. I was thinking about using the 2TB SSD that I currently use for my OS for games and picking up an M.2 SSD for the OS (Was thinking about getting an 970 EVO Plus). Does this sound like a solid plan or does anyone have any better recommendations?
  • With regards to graphics cards, I know kyn1972 recommended a 1660 Super, though I was thinking about going for something with a little more oomph. Originally I heard about the GTX 2080 as the new top of the range card, but it looks like that was discontinued and replaced with the 2080 Super (at least according to Wikipedia). Is there one of these that would be worth getting over the other, or even a card not listed there?
  • Part of the case that I got came with a bunch of RGB fans, and it'd be nice to be able to control them properly (I'm currently using the motherboard's addressable RGB headers, but it doesn't seem to be having much effect). Does anyone have any potential software or hardware solutions for controlling the RGB on the fans properly? I also have an RGB corsair mouse, so bonus points if that can also be controlled through it.
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2 hours ago, Pilch Dragon said:

I'm looking to replace my now dead hard drive. I was thinking about using the 2TB SSD that I currently use for my OS for games and picking up an M.2 SSD for the OS (Was thinking about getting an 970 EVO Plus). Does this sound like a solid plan or does anyone have any better recommendations?

very overpriced get these instead: (they are as fast as the 970 evo)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2sdxFT/silicon-power-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a80m28

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zR3H99/adata-sx8200-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-1tt-c

 

 

2 hours ago, Pilch Dragon said:

With regards to graphics cards, I know kyn1972 recommended a 1660 Super, though I was thinking about going for something with a little more oomph. Originally I heard about the GTX 2080 as the new top of the range card, but it looks like that was discontinued and replaced with the 2080 Super (at least according to Wikipedia). Is there one of these that would be worth getting over the other, or even a card not listed there?

gtx 980 is decent but rx 5600XT/5700/5700Xt are the bets price to performance gpus. rx 5700 XT is 1-5% worse than rtx 2070 super but 20% cheaper.

for high end gpu get rtx 2080 super

for higher mid range get rx 5700 XT

for mid range get rx 5700

for lower mid range get rx 5600XT

 

 

 

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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1 hour ago, SavageNeo said:

very overpriced get these instead: (they are as fast as the 970 evo)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2sdxFT/silicon-power-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a80m28

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zR3H99/adata-sx8200-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-1tt-c

 

 

gtx 980 is decent but rx 5600XT/5700/5700Xt are the bets price to performance gpus. rx 5700 XT is 1-5% worse than rtx 2070 super but 20% cheaper.

for high end gpu get rtx 2080 super

for higher mid range get rx 5700 XT

for mid range get rx 5700

for lower mid range get rx 5600XT

 

 

 

Thanks for the information, based on your response and the information I'm seeing, I'm inclined to change my decision on the SSD and go for the ADATA one as you've recommended. Regarding the graphics card, I'm still mulling over whether to go for the 2080 Super or the 5700 XT. Part of me wants to go for the higher end card for better future proofing, but I'm having a really hard time justifying the almost double price tag for the 2080S.

 

Edit: As a brief follow up, I'm likely going to settle on the RX 5700 XT. Is there any practical difference between them? I was planning on going for the Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ SE, but I get the feeling that there may well be a better option before I commit to it

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Added decision regarding GPU
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I've just been made aware of the concept of GPU sag (I've been out of the hardware loop for ages now TBH). Is this something anyone has had experience with regarding the RX 5700 XT type cards? If so, does anyone have any decent solutions? I was going to pick up a cheap brace support, but as usual, I'm open to better solutions.

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Thought I'd drop by one last time, and thank everyone who has taken the time to give advice in this thread and offer better alternatives to some of my original plans. After taking on board all of the suggestions for the PC, it has all come together, and I thought I'd share a picture!

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There are still some things I still need to do to it, but at this point it's mostly just tidying up or some nice to have things:

 

- The cables are a mess. I'm planning to get a controller and will eventually thread the fan cables through to the back of the case instead

- For the top and back fans, I recycled them from my old cooler master case. As such they're pretty old, and they're not great but they work. I'll likely get some newer ones later on

- The GPU isn't currently hooked up to any sort of RGB controller, as I still need to buy one of these. This will hopefully fix the RGB on the fans as well, which currently aren't in sync with the CPU fan or Strix logo

 

 

Also, since 3DMark was on sale, I picked up that and gave Time Spy a try, and it came out at just over 9500. Could likely get it higher if I overclocked but I'm not massively concerned with that.

 

For now though, I'm extremely happy with this, its honestly the sort of PC I've always wanted; Powerful, good for programming work and gaming, and lots and lots of RGB.

 

Thanks again! :)

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4 minutes ago, Pilch Dragon said:

The cables are a mess. I'm planning to get a controller and will eventually thread the fan cables through to the back of the case instead

Also you can tighten the mobo, cpu and gpu cables.

5 minutes ago, Pilch Dragon said:

For the top and back fans, I recycled them from my old cooler master case. As such they're pretty old, and they're not great but they work. I'll likely get some newer ones later on

Yeah they ugly af

5 minutes ago, Pilch Dragon said:

The GPU isn't currently hooked up to any sort of RGB controller, as I still need to buy one of these. This will hopefully fix the RGB on the fans as well, which currently aren't in sync with the CPU fan or Strix logo

??. Gpus do not need rgb controllers. you can control the rgb from Sapphire's rgb control. download it form Sapphire)

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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6 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Yeah they ugly af

Yep, they kinda bring down the look of the rest of it a bit, but its temporary. Definitely need a break from working on things for the last week and a half or so.

8 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Gpus do not need rgb controllers. you can control the rgb from Sapphire's rgb control. download it form Sapphire)

Will do. I admittedly didn't look too much into this, I just saw in the instructions that there's somewhere to plug an ARGB cable into on the card and assumed that it was mandatory

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1 minute ago, Pilch Dragon said:

Will do. I admittedly didn't look too much into this, I just saw in the instructions that there's somewhere to plug an ARGB cable into on the card and assumed that it was mandatory

it probably meant the case fans.

 

do you need an aftermarket cooler? what are your temps with that cpu? if you want to get 4+ghz on all cores boost aftermarket cooler will be needed. But for stock clocks that cooler should handle that cpu pretty well.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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7 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

do you need an aftermarket cooler? what are your temps with that cpu? if you want to get 4+ghz on all cores boost aftermarket cooler will be needed. But for stock clocks that cooler should handle that cpu pretty well

I was debating whether or not to get one, though I eventually decided against for now. I'm not too concerned with overclocking ATM (I've honestly always been a little nervous with it, since I don't know what I'm doing and don't want to damage things).

 

At the moment temps seem to be all over the place for the CPU, at least according to CoreTemp. I've seen it go as low as 45 and as high as 72 when idle, but then it never went much higher when I was doing the Time Spy benchmark.

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Its normal for idle. sometimes your cpu only uses 1% soemtimes the system runs something and it uses 5%, and since the cpu fan is probably running very low speed (because temps are so low) the cpu cooler cannot react to usage change in time, so the temps go up before the cpu fan starts to run at higher speed.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Its normal for idle. sometimes your cpu only uses 1% soemtimes the system runs something and it uses 5%, and since the cpu fan is probably running very low speed (because temps are so low) the cpu cooler cannot react to usage change in time, so the temps go up before the cpu fan starts to run at higher speed.

Thats a relief. I thought for some reason that it was meant to not go that high when idle

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Just now, Pilch Dragon said:

Thats a relief. I thought for some reason that it was meant to not go that high when idle

pretty much what every user is conserned about. Haha!

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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