Interchangeable cpus

[ComputerPsych]

Hello, so i have a intel celeron d 346 and intel core 2 quad q8300 and i dont know can i put my 2 quad in the place of the celeron the sockets are plga 775 and lga 775 I read they should work. I put it in and it doesnt post. Motherboard from a hp prebuild.

[Eigenvektor]

Compatible sockets is just one part of it. Both the chipset and BIOS have to support the CPU as well. In some cases (like the newer Ryzens) all that's needed is a BIOS update to get a newer CPU to work. However that requires the manufacturer to make such an update available.

 

In case of pre-built computers manufacturers sometimes do the exact opposite. The BIOS may contain a black- or whitelist that explicitly blocks certain CPUs or only allows very specific CPUs. Afaik HP is one of those that do this.

[ComputerPsych]

is there a way i can make my q8300 work

 

[Eigenvektor]

2 minutes ago, ComputerPsych said:

is there a way i can make my q8300 work

Search for the motherboard's manual online. Take a look at which chipset it has and which CPUs are supported by it. Maybe you're lucky and there's a BIOS update available, but I doubt that. If the chipset and/or BIOS doesn't support the CPU or HP has explicitly blacklisted the CPU there's not much you can do.

[Applefreak]

What motherboard do you have?

[ComputerPsych]

1 minute ago, Applefreak said:

What motherboard do you have?

HP 441388-001

[jaslion]

What hp model is this? Easier than with the random motherboard numbers it gets.

[ComputerPsych]

Just now, jaslion said:

What hp model is this? Easier than with the random motherboard numbers it gets.

hp compaq dx2300 microtower

[Applefreak]

Sorry no Core 2 Quad support as far as I can tell. But you can try it out and see it will be recognized but not likely though.

 

MSI MS-7336 Ver 1.0 HP 441388-001 440567-002

Mainboard Socket 775 PCIe SATA

Specifications

 

CPU Support

Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe, Allendale)

Intel Pentium Dual-Core (Allendale)

Intel Pentium D (Smithfield, Presler)

Intel Pentium 4 Extreme Edition (Gallatin, Prescott 2M)

Intel Pentium 4 (Prescott, Prescott 2M, Cedar Mill)

Intel Celeron Dual-Core (Allendale)

Intel Celeron (Conroe-L)

Intel Celeron D (Prescott, Cedar Mill)

Chipset

Intel 946GZ (Lakeport) / ICH7 (82801GB)

NB/SB interconnection via Direct Media Interface with 2 GB/s (4 DMI lanes, 1 GB/s each direction)

Supports FSB 533/800 (133/200 MHz QDR)

Supports 128 bit memory interface (Dual Channel)

Supports Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)

Supports Universal Serial Bus (USB 2.0/1.1)

Supports PCI Express (PCIe 1.1)

Supports PCI v2.3

Supports Serial ATA 3.0 Gbit/s

Memory

2 x 240-Pin DIMM sockets supporting DDR2-SDRAM

Supports up to 2 DIMMs DDR2 533/667

Supports up to 2 GB DIMMs

Supports max. 4 GiB RAM

Supports 128 bit memory interface (Dual Channel)

Graphics

Intel GMA 3000 IGP

Supports up to 256 MB shared memory

Supports Pixel Shader Model 2.0

Supports Vertex Shader Model 2.0/3.0 (Software)

Microsoft DirectX 9.0c compliant

OpenGL 1.4 compliant

Audio

ICH7 integrated Intel HD Audio controller

Realtek ALC888 HD Audio codec

Supports High Definition Audio

LAN

ICH7 integrated Intel Pro/100 VE MAC / Intel 82562GT PHY

Supports 10/100M Fast Ethernet

Internal I/O

1 x PCIe x16

2 x PCIe x1

1 x PCI

4 x SATA

1 x Floppy port

2 x USB 2.0/1.1 headers

1 x RS-232 header (COM)

1 x Front Panel audio header

Back Panel I/O

1 x PS/2 keyboard

1 x PS/2 mouse

4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports

1 x VGA port

1 x RJ45 (LAN)

1 x RS-232 port (COM)

1 x Parallel port (LPT)

Audio connectors (line-out, line-in, mic-in)

BIOS

8 MBit Flash EEPROM (PLCC32)

Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG

Supports Plug-and-Play (PNP)

Supports Advanced Power Management (APM)

Supports Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)

Supports Desktop Management Interface (DMI)

Miscellaneous

Micro-ATX form factor

24 pin ATX power connector

4 pin 12V power connector

Winbond W83627DHG hardware monitoring and Super I/O chip

MSI MS-7G ACPI controller

Silego SLG84516BT clock generator (PLL)

Intersil ISL6312 multiphase PWM controller (2-/3-/4-phase operation)

1 x 4-pin FAN header

1 x 3-pin FAN header

6 mounting holes

[ComputerPsych]

i found a bios update Gona try that

[jaslion]

Applefreak is spot on with the list. Was also looking around and found some old posts about people trying a couple quad cores but no success as they are not supported. So basically it's a no go.

[ComputerPsych]

Just now, jaslion said:

Applefreak is spot on with the list. Was also looking around and found some old posts about people trying a couple quad cores but no success as they are not supported. So basically it's a no go.

Dang it Well thanks for help guys this forum is the best

[papajo]

So the answer is no, dont fall in the trap of buying prebuild OEM stuff from HP,dell,Toshiba and the likes it may seem cheaper but it always bites you in the ass the long run 

[ComputerPsych]

Just now, papajo said:

So the answer is no, dont fall in the trap of buying prebuild OEM stuff from HP,dell,Toshiba and the likes it may see cheaper but it always bites you in the ass the long run 

Got it for 20 bucks so Im gona put the best cpu it supports its good  for google and zoom runs on it so its enough for my mom

[jaslion]

Just now, papajo said:

So the answer is no, dont fall in the trap of buying prebuild OEM stuff from HP,dell,Toshiba and the likes it may see cheaper but it always bites you in the ass the long run 

Does depend on what the purpose is tho. Cheap temp gaming system? A old i7 dell prebuilt will do as the psu is easy user replaceable and for about 250 you have a i7 2600 with 8-16gb of ram a 240gb or larger ssd and a rx 580. But as you said there are plenty of really crappy ones.

[papajo]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Does depend on what the purpose is tho. Cheap temp gaming system? A old i7 dell prebuilt will do as the psu is easy user replaceable and for about 250 you have a i7 2600 with 8-16gb of ram a 240gb or larger ssd and a rx 580. But as you said there are plenty of really crappy ones.

again its not a given.. a) on some of them you have to find a specific PSU because not all fit b) there might be a GPU compatibility limitation so you cant upgrade to a better GPU because it wont run... happens all the time its seems a good deal and if you get it all setup it will do its job but upgrades are gonna be a pain in the arse and you wished you gave 100$ or so more to get a used custom build one. 

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, papajo said:

again its not a given.. a) on some of them you have to find a specific PSU because not all fit b) there might be a GPU compatibility limitation so you cant upgrade to a better GPU because it wont run... happens all the time its seems a good deal and if you get it all setup it will do its job but upgrades are gonna be a pain in the arse and you wished you gave 100$ or so more to get a used custom build one. 

Oh yes not saying that all are like that. A lot have these 25 or 35w limits on the pcie slot or some stupid proprietary connector a bios lock and whatnot I'm well aware of that. You always have to do your research well before going used.

[ComputerPsych]

Wait so this mobo does support intel 2 duo e8400?

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, ComputerPsych said:

Wait so this mobo does support intel 2 duo e8400?

No that's a wolfdale core 2. Those are not supported.

[ComputerPsych]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

No that's a wolfdale core 2. Those are not supported.

So i have to buy a new cpu then e6750

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, ComputerPsych said:

So i have to buy a new cpu then e6750

Safest option would be a e6700 as it shipped with those. But a e6750 would work or a e6850 but don't spend much on this.

[ComputerPsych]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Safest option would be a e6700 as it shipped with those. But a e6750 would work or a e6850 but don't spend much on this.

Found an e6750 for 2 bucks

[jaslion]

Just now, ComputerPsych said:

Found an e6750 for 2 bucks

Go for it then nothings wasted.

[ComputerPsych]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Go for it then nothings wasted.

Yeah i will

[papajo]

1 minute ago, ComputerPsych said:

Found an e6750 for 2 bucks

well you can test it but most likely it wont work (atleast from what Applefreak pasted because it says FSB 533/800) the 6xxx series have FSB 1066 or 1333 so bad luck but then again since is so cheap you dont lose something to try

 

otherwise go for an Core 2 Duo E4700