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juryduty911
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Hey All, 

having an issue w my 2070S and not sure what the root problem is. My system is less than a year old. 

Specs: 3700x, 32gb ram 3k mhz, gigabyte windforce 2070s OC. My gaming monitor is 2560x1080 @ 144hz 

Edit to mention. 750W seasonic focus plus gold. 1tb nvme m.2

 

so I ran into issues last night playing Shadow of the Tomb raider. I noticed I was getting substantially lower FPS than normal with my very new rig. Ran the in-game benchmark, image attached from good fps and bad.

 

I have run MSI kombustor, and Afterburner during a userbenchmark test and am seeing no anomalies. ALSO, userbench shows that my GPU is performing "way below expectations".

 

Things I've tried:

  • Rolled back my driver in Geforce X. no fix.
  • Used DDU in safe mode to roll back drivers again. no fix.
  • Tried unplugging GPU from PS and at the connections, and re-tried benchmark. No fix.
  • Tried uninstalling/reinstalling game. no fix
  • Tried fresh windows install. no fix.
  • Tried OCing GPU further using MSI afterburner. no fix.
  • OCd my ram using AMDs DRAM calc. no fix
  • BIOS update for my MSI x470 gaming plus board. no fix.

I can not, for the life of me, figure out why I have nearly 40% drop in frame rate playing the same game on the same settings. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Many images attached for help diagnosing. plez help! I am losing my mind.

 

bench6.jpg

Bench1.jpg

 

 

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confused, those side by side benchmark results, what is different between them? what is left and what is right? did you change something?

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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The only thing different is the GPU driver. I rolled back to the known higher FPS driver and still got the same benchmark results as the one on the right. Both were using Geforce X's recommended settings, so the settings should have been the same.

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With regards to the Tomb Raider benchmarks I don't think those two are using the same settings. I mean look at the GPU Bound it goes from 30% for the first one to 99% in the second one.

 

Since you didn't change any hardware that shouldn't have significantly changed unless the settings changed.

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Thanks, and while I think you are right I don't have the full screenshots from the benchmark I did when I was getting good fps.

 

Still think my GPU should be giving significantly better frames for this game.

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Is it throttling due to temp? Check cooling fins, case airflow, etc.

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Thanks. Throttling not an issue. max temp is 65C, and running nzxt h500. Currently running with side panel off bc it's easier to reach cmos button.

 

other suggestions?

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the only thing I can think of is that its not getting the correct power it needs. your pics show 0mV and no slider to increase or decrease the voltage going to it. attached is a screenshot of mine.

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18 hours ago, juryduty911 said:

Hey All, 

having an issue w my 2070S and not sure what the root problem is. My system is less than a year old. 

Specs: 3700x, 32gb ram 3k mhz, gigabyte windforce 2070s OC. My gaming monitor is 2560x1080 @ 144hz 

Edit to mention. 750W seasonic focus plus gold. 1tb nvme m.2

 

so I ran into issues last night playing Shadow of the Tomb raider. I noticed I was getting substantially lower FPS than normal with my very new rig. Ran the in-game benchmark, image attached from good fps and bad.

 

I have run MSI kombustor, and Afterburner during a userbenchmark test and am seeing no anomalies. ALSO, userbench shows that my GPU is performing "way below expectations".

 

Things I've tried:

  • Rolled back my driver in Geforce X. no fix.
  • Used DDU in safe mode to roll back drivers again. no fix.
  • Tried unplugging GPU from PS and at the connections, and re-tried benchmark. No fix.
  • Tried uninstalling/reinstalling game. no fix
  • Tried fresh windows install. no fix.
  • Tried OCing GPU further using MSI afterburner. no fix.
  • OCd my ram using AMDs DRAM calc. no fix
  • BIOS update for my MSI x470 gaming plus board. no fix.

I can not, for the life of me, figure out why I have nearly 40% drop in frame rate playing the same game on the same settings. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Many images attached for help diagnosing. plez help! I am losing my mind.

 

bench6.jpg

Bench1.jpg

 

 

bench4.jpg

 

bench7.jpg

Can you please turn of the PC unplug the PSU from the wall. 

Place your hands on some metal to remove static electricity (Not the PC).

Unplug all of the cables: 4pin or 8 pin cable above the CPU socket, 24pin cable to the MOBO and 8pin + 6pin cables to the GPU.

Re-seat and connect all of the cables back.

This could be a power delivery problem. BIOS could be running your PC in some kind of power safe mode because of power delivery problem.

Also try removing the CMOS battery for reseting the BIOS.

Here are the instructions:

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  1.  Shutdown your PC.
  2. Unplug power cord.
  3. Remove screws from the casing in order to access the motherboard.
  4. Place your hands on some metal to remove static electricity.
  5. Find the CMOS battery and remove it.
  6. Wait for some time and insert battery again.
  7. Start your PC and configure BIOS settings again.
  8. Check for changes in PSU behavior.

Run a stress test of the CPU and GPU combined. Using Prime95 and MSI Kombustor and watch the temps, freq. and voltages using Open Hardware Monitor.

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1 minute ago, juryduty911 said:

I'll look into this and get back to you.

And please when you reply to someone quote them.

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3 minutes ago, juryduty911 said:

 @greeatzy thx. "Also try removing the CMOS battery for reseting the BIOS."

Looking at my mobo manual I see where they discuss the battery, but not it's location.

E7B79v2.1-GSE-LITE.pdf 7.83 MB · 0 downloads

Follow the instructions page 40/99

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@greeatzy I have no jumper cap. I am guessing a paperclip would work? anything metallic?

Paperclip will work. Just try to isolate that paper clip from yourself so you don't discharge any residual charge of your body to the pins.

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@greeatzy do you have discord? not sure which test in kombustor to run. Also, not familiar with prime 95.

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49 minutes ago, juryduty911 said:

@greeatzy do you have discord? not sure which test in kombustor to run. Also, not familiar with prime 95.

Sorry I don't have discord. 

For prime95 I would recommend to use "In-place large FFTs" test. Because this loads the CPU the most. 

Here is a interesting article about prime95. 

You can use AIDA64 also for stress testing. 

Basically what you fell comfortable working with to do the tests. 

The objective is to increase the power consumption of your components to see if its gonna crash or start throttling both in terms of CPU or GPU. 

Did you do the CMOS clear and re-seating of the connectors? 

If yes did anything change in the benchmarks? 

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@greeatzyI did do all that you suggested. And now I must do my walk of shame.

 

Turns out GX optimizes games by turning on an option called "ray traced shadow quality" for this specific game. I SWEAR I had checked all my options prior to going on this wild goose chase, but apparently not. Turning that off has immediately fixed all my frame issues, and with the OC that I've added for my RAM and GPU I am actually able to run the settings a bit higher than normal. Sheesh. Thanks for your help here.

 

Problem solved. Rookie error.

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2 hours ago, juryduty911 said:

@greeatzyI did do all that you suggested. And now I must do my walk of shame.

 

Turns out GX optimizes games by turning on an option called "ray traced shadow quality" for this specific game. I SWEAR I had checked all my options prior to going on this wild goose chase, but apparently not. Turning that off has immediately fixed all my frame issues, and with the OC that I've added for my RAM and GPU I am actually able to run the settings a bit higher than normal. Sheesh. Thanks for your help here.

 

Problem solved. Rookie error.

The important thing is that the problem is gone.

Stay safe. Game on!

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