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So this is my built that I built a day ago:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JXQZGc

 

I was wondering if it's a good idea to enable DOCP, I am just worried it might bottleneck with the ryzen 5 3600 and cause crashes.

 

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Yeah.. my ASUS board didn't do all the memory timings when I enabled DOCP, you can try to enable it and crosscheck with the SPD information under Tools in BIOS that all the timings listed are as they should be. If you get BSOD or random reboots then something is probably bad.

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9 minutes ago, Manyeet said:

I was wondering if it's a good idea to enable DOCP, I am just worried it might bottleneck with the ryzen 5 3600

I can't understand why you would even think this. If you don't manually overclock the ram, DOCP is the only way your ram will run at its rated speed, and if the ram is stuck at its base speed, it will hinder performance greatly.

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

I can't understand why you would even think this. If you don't manually overclock the ram, DOCP is the only way your ram will run at its rated speed, and if the ram is stuck at its base speed, and will hinder performance greatly.

Not everyone knows everything, and plenty of people post without researching (including myself on occasion).

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bottleneck happens when you have component a + component b+ component C working hand on hand to produce results and either a or b or c (or ab or bc or ac) are performing slow enough to not allow the rest of the components to work at their 100%

 

e.g a slow CPU e.g core 2  will not allow the rtx 2080 ti to produce the same framerate as it would had it be paired with a faster CPU such as a i7 9700k

 

So no bottleneck can happen enabling DOCP unless you find some obscure very low clocked ram kit out there

 

 

DOCP is a generic version of XMP profile you need to enable it in order to have your ram run at the advertised by the manufacturer speeds and timings

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Just now, PineyCreek said:

Not everyone knows everything, and plenty of people post without researching (including myself on occasion).

the use of the word "bottleneck" is what throws me. It's not unheard of that the function of DOCP is unknown, but the idea that running ram faster will slow down the CPU? Really bizarre.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

the use of the word "bottleneck" is what throws me. It's not unheard of that the function of DOCP is unknown, but the idea that running ram faster will slow down the CPU? Really bizarre.

Well, that's where my comment about research, i.e. doing a Google search about DOCP, came into play.

 

I work in product support.  Treat everyone with kid gloves and the belief they're going to be angry and know nothing until you're proven otherwise.  Never hurts to be nice.

 

Though I'll also admit that repeating the same thing over and over kindles a certain rage inside me.

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haha I realized I asked the question without doing much research, sorry about that. I looked into it a bit more and many sources said enabling DOCP overclocks cpu and I am using the stock cooler coming with the ryzen 5 3600, will that be alright?

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4 minutes ago, Manyeet said:

haha I realized I asked the question without doing much research, sorry about that. I looked into it a bit more and many sources said enabling DOCP overclocks cpu and I am using the stock cooler coming with the ryzen 5 3600, will that be alright?

DOCP enables the motherboard to use different memory profiles, usually enabling the memory kit's advertised speeds/timings.  Without it, the memory will run at a slower, standard speed, unless manually configured in the BIOS.  DOCP does not overclock CPU.

 

Edit: researching a bit more myself, it seems like it might affect the CPU slightly, but not enough to matter.  The motherboard manufacturer would advise you not to use the stock cooler with the motherboard if that was the case.

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14 hours ago, PineyCreek said:

DOCP enables the motherboard to use different memory profiles, usually enabling the memory kit's advertised speeds/timings.  Without it, the memory will run at a slower, standard speed, unless manually configured in the BIOS.  DOCP does not overclock CPU.

alright thank you

 

edit: didnt do it yet

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Noting that with a proper configuration all modern CPUs have a boost anyways, usually related to available heat dissipation. So...I can't fathom a scenario where you would have trouble here.

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