Issues with new build

[AAB]

Hi all,

So these are my specs.

ASRock B450 Pro4

Ryzen 5 3500

Corsair Vengeance 3200MHz 

Galax 2060 Super 8GB1-click-oc

Crucial MX500 500GB

2TB HDD Toshiba P300

Acer XV272U

Cooler Master NR 600(1 fan in-take 1 exhaust)

Cooler Master MasterWatt 80+ Bronze.

 

The issue is after running Cinebench R20 my CPU just never boosts to 4GHz even in Single Core test. Apart from that on very rare occasion at times I do get the system just being very laggy happens rarely(2-3 times since I built the PC about 3 weeks back) when I switch on the system.

Now when it comes to games the only game I have run/played so far is Battlefield 1(a 2-3 year old game).  If this was in an intensive scene and frame rate drops I understand like for eg bombs going off  or fire or ton of soldiers shooting/moving. But for some reason frame rate drops to 38 FPS from 120-124 FPS.

Next case is when I click campaign and the game starts up for the first time I have frame drops to 38 FPS initially and then after that the games works fine.

In game the CPU stays at 88° C and 3825 MHz on all cores.

atleast one core should boost to 4.1 or 4GHz but in my case that just does not seem to happen. 

My GPU temp does not exceed 72°C(I have fan blowing air on it though)

Should I try ask for another CPU from AMD given that it's in warranty?

Is my motherboard the culprit?

Should I reapply thermal compound on CPU and replace thermal pads on the VRM on this motherboard, If yes can anyone share instructions on how to remove the heatsink/cooler of the VRM fro this board.

Should I maybe mount a fan up top, so that it blows cooler air on processor or VRM?

This is my first build, gaming on something above 25-30 FPS. Is anything wrong here or is my hardware only performing as good as it can?

[SupaKomputa]

dead / broken cpu most unlikely.

88c is pretty hot. you should investigate the heatsink installation. 

[Senzelian]

This is a common issue. Check your Windows power management settings.
The minimum power needs to be set to 5% and the maximum power to 100%.

For one core to clock to its maximum frequency, other cores need to be clocked lower, which can only happen, if the minimum power setting is set to a reasonably low percentage such as 5%.

 

I had this problem with my Ryzen 7 2700.
(I hope the screenshot helps - it's in German :s) 


When it comes to gaming it makes sense that all cores are clocked to the same frequency, because games such as Battlefield require more than just one or two cores to run well.

 

Edit: Oh yeah, and your temps are way too high.  

[Jurrunio]

11 minutes ago, AAB said:

In game the CPU stays at 88° C and 3825 MHz on all cores.

atleast one core should boost to 4.1 or 4GHz but in my case that just does not seem to happen. 

Runs too hot for that

 

11 minutes ago, AAB said:

Corsair Vengeance 3200MHz 

Did you enable XMP/DOCP/A-XMP?

[AAB]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

dead / broken cpu most unlikely.

88c is pretty hot. you should investigate the heatsink installation. 

It's at 52-60 when I have chrome with 8 tabs and a a bluetooth headset connected you really think its a thermal issue? 

I will do it after I buy the thermal paste.

Still not a single core ever hits 4GHz, they advertised 4.1GHz , BTW I run my game at Ultra settings.

I updated the BIOS on the AS Rock board as well.

[AAB]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Runs too hot for that

 

Did you enable XMP/DOCP/A-XMP?

Yes I have. BTw is battlefield really that intensive? cause my GPU rarely was at 100% usage. In fact the memory usage on GPU stayed at 4GB maxx.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, AAB said:

Yes I have. BTw is battlefield really that intensive? cause my GPU rarely was at 100% usage. In fact the memory usage on GPU stayed at 4GB maxx.

Dual channel memory?

 

This game wants everything really

[SupaKomputa]

it should be around 40-ish for browsing only.

gaming / full load should be in the low 70.

you wont hit 4.1 if the average temps already high.

[AAB]

4 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

This is a common issue. Check your Windows power management settings.
The minimum power needs to be set to 5% and the maximum power to 100%.

For one core to clock to its maximum frequency, other cores need to be clocked lower, which can only happen, if the minimum power setting is set to a reasonably low percentage such as 5%.

 

I had this problem with my Ryzen 7 2700.
(I hope the screenshot helps - it's in German :s) 


When it comes to gaming it makes sense that all cores are clocked to the same frequency, because games such as Battlefield require more than just one or two cores to run well.

Interesting will try your suggestion, Apart from that any idea about PBO etc any auto overclocks I can enable to get the most of the CPU?

[AAB]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Dual channel memory?

 

This game wants everything really

Yes Dual channel had no clue this game is so intensive

Edited March 11, 2020 by AAB

[Senzelian]

4 minutes ago, AAB said:

Interesting will try your suggestion, Apart from that any idea about PBO etc any auto overclocks I can enable to get the most of the CPU?

I looked into overclocking and also optimizing my 2700 when it came out, so that was quite a while ago.
Back then most people recommended not to overclock or tinker with clockspeeds in general, because apparently their automated frequency adjusting mumbo jumbo would do that automatically..

I heard about adjusting individual CCXs in AMD's Ryzen Master software or whatever it is called.
Apparently some CCXs or cores run better than others, so it could make sense to tweak those individual parts by overclocking them.
I haven't tried it tho.

[AAB]

8 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

it should be around 40-ish for browsing only.

gaming / full load should be in the low 70.

you wont hit 4.1 if the average temps already high.

Might sound stupid, but I stay in India the place I stay the temp goes to 33-35°C during day(now a bit higher in April) and 25°C at night. I don't have an AC as well so may be hot place so hot temps? 

BTW not that I don't want to check the cooler but its just a bit of work and I don't have any thermal paste at hand. I will need to spend around Rs.220-250 on the paste as well for say something like a cooler master. Noctua, Arctic thermal paste are very expensive and am not sure how much better the Cooler Master(cheapest one) thermal paste will be compared to the preapplied one

[SupaKomputa]

i live in a hot south east asia brother.

42c is my browsing temp. all day all night.

you don't need to buy new thermal paste, if you still have some left in the heatsink it's ok.

all you need to do is screw it perfectly.

you can examine the thermal paste pattern to see if the heatsink is in perfect contact.

should be like this picture below, if you see any big blobs in the center means it's no good.

[SupaKomputa]

this one no good.

[AAB]

10 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

i live in a hot south east asia brother.

42c is my browsing temp. all day all night.

you don't need to buy new thermal paste, if you still have some left in the heatsink it's ok.

all you need to do is screw it perfectly.

you can examine the thermal paste pattern to see if the heatsink is in perfect contact.

should be like this picture below, if you see any big blobs in the center means it's no good.

Hmm will check it then do you suggest i do it in the case or remove the motherboard and do it outside?

[SupaKomputa]

Normally you can do it in the case.