New cpu cooler with questionable results?

[ChaseDown]

So I have a r7 3800x in a thermalright v1.

With the stock wraith prism and no exhaust fans I idles in the lower 40s but under all core work loads I would get up to 90 and the all core clock would drop about 100 to 150 mhz, and the cooler was loud as hell!

 

After posting on the forum I found I should be able to get a decent tower cooler and bigger than the case spec says. 

So I ordered a Arctic Freezer 33 Esports One and 2 80mm arctic fans for exhaust!

 

I tested the wraith prism with the 80mm exhaust fans and it didn't help the cpu but did lower gpu temps!

Then I installed the Arctic cooler(still with exhaust fans) and now my idle temps are in the 50s!  My all core workload tests are now maxing at 79c  my frequency also went up about 50 mhz and its much quieter... I'm just worried I did something wrong with the idle temps so much higher!

Any tips would be great thank you!

[Bombastinator]

44 minutes ago, ChaseDown said:

So I have a r7 3800x in a thermalright v1.

With the stock wraith prism and no exhaust fans I idles in the lower 40s but under all core work loads I would get up to 90 and the all core clock would drop about 100 to 150 mhz, and the cooler was loud as hell!

 

After posting on the forum I found I should be able to get a decent tower cooler and bigger than the case spec says. 

So I ordered a Arctic Freezer 33 Esports One and 2 80mm arctic fans for exhaust!

 

I tested the wraith prism with the 80mm exhaust fans and it didn't help the cpu but did lower gpu temps!

Then I installed the Arctic cooler(still with exhaust fans) and now my idle temps are in the 50s!  My all core workload tests are now maxing at 79c  my frequency also went up about 50 mhz and its much quieter... I'm just worried I did something wrong with the idle temps so much higher!

Any tips would be great thank you!

The problem with case cooling is it’s fluid dynamics (With air as the fluid) and fluid dynamics can get really complex. It can depend on exactly where stuff is and where the air winds up going which can depend on weird seemingly minor things.

The only thing to do generally is test.  The rules of thumb are rough at best.
 It does sound like you lowered max temps which is good.

[ChaseDown]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

The problem with case cooling is it’s fluid dynamics (With air as the fluid) and fluid dynamics can get really complex. It can depend on exactly where stuff is and where the air winds up going which can depend on weird seemingly minor things.

The only thing to do generally is test.  The rules of thumb are rough at best.
 It does sound like you lowered max temps which is good.

So do you think with the max temps lower and the frequency higher I should just leave it? I'm just worried I did something wrong to cause the idle to go up. But I have to consider it might be as you said just air flow changes or cooler differences I guess?

[Bombastinator]

4 minutes ago, ChaseDown said:

So do you think with the max temps lower and the frequency higher I should just leave it? I'm just worried I did something wrong to cause the idle to go up. But I have to consider it might be as you said just air flow changes or cooler differences I guess?

You could mess around if you want.  There may be a better configuration possible.  Repeated Testing is the only way I know of to find it. Without a pic of the case innards making even rule-of-thumb suggestions is of limit utility at best.  There’s an argument that is made that anything under 90c doesn’t matter because even at 90c a cpu will still last years.  The other camp says that anything around 75c makes a cpu last a looong time.

[ChaseDown]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

You could mess around if you want.  There may be a better configuration possible.  Repeated Testing is the only way I know of to find it. Without a pic of the case innards making even rule-of-thumb suggestions is of limit utility at best.  There’s an argument that is made that anything under 90c doesn’t matter because even at 90c a cpu will still last years.  The other camp says that anything around 75c makes a cpu last a looong time.

Thank you.

I only have pics with the stock cooler. Haven't taken any since I got the new fans and cpu cooler. I dont think there is a way to improve the air flow in the case without switching the front 200mm fan to something with better static pressure or nodding the case to hold more fans.

I'll just keep an eye on temps to make sure the max during multicore doesn't start going above 80c, and maybe remount the cpu cooler when I get more thermal paste lol.

[StarsMars]

Not sure but I think arctic fans can idle pretty slow. Might cause the idle temps