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Bios issues and overclocking issues (ryzen)

This is my first time posting on LTT forums so sorry if I'm in the wrong section.
I'm not very well knowledged on overclocking outside of the basics so I would like some input from others. I've been messing with my 1500x though Ryzen master and I've managed to get it to 3.85Ghz but it need 1.4v or it wont run. The temps are fine and I know that Ryzen can handle 1.4v just fine and thats not my issue, my issue is that its taking 1.4v for only 3.85Ghz when I've seen people getting 4Ghz + and I've seen others getting 3.85Ghz on much lower voltages than me. I'm leaning towards it maybe being a bios thing because if I try to overclock through my bios my cpu will lock at 1.55Ghz. I dont have a usb stick to try updating my bios right now so I was wondering if anyone had any information on these 2 issues. Thanks 

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Silicon lottery, and you've just lost it. It could be as bad as 3.75GHz as I've seen

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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53 minutes ago, Angeri said:

I'm not very well knowledged on overclocking outside of the basics so I would like some input from others. I've been messing with my 1500x though Ryzen master and I've managed to get it to 3.85Ghz but it need 1.4v or it wont run. The temps are fine and I know that Ryzen can handle 1.4v just fine and thats not my issue, my issue is that its taking 1.4v for only 3.85Ghz when I've seen people getting 4Ghz + and I've seen others getting 3.85Ghz on much lower voltages than me. I'm leaning towards it maybe being a bios thing because if I try to overclock through my bios my cpu will lock at 1.55Ghz. I dont have a usb stick to try updating my bios right now so I was wondering if anyone had any information on these 2 issues. Thanks 

The voltage you set isn't usually what you're going to get, you need to monitor it and set the voltage properly with proper LLC settings to get the most out of your overclock, though some boards have a hard time keeping voltage stable because of their lower quality VRMs and you haven't mentioned your system specs.

 

Never overclock through software, also you don't need a USB drive to update your BIOS, it can be done through software in Windows, or depending on your board it can also be done directly in BIOS without a USB drive, it will download the BIOS update from the internet. (while in BIOS)

 

But as @Jurrunio said it could also be just silicon lottery (very likely), to my knowledge hitting a 3.9Ghz wall was very common on the 1600 and below.

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8 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

The voltage you set isn't usually what you're going to get, you need to monitor it and set the voltage properly with proper LLC settings to get the most out of your overclock, though some boards have a hard time keeping voltage stable because of their lower quality VRMs and you haven't mentioned your system specs.

 

Never overclock through software, also you don't need a USB drive to update your BIOS, it can be done through software in Windows, or depending on your board it can also be done directly in BIOS without a USB drive, it will download the BIOS update from the internet. (while in BIOS)

 

But as @Jurrunio said it could also be just silicon lottery (very likely), to my knowledge hitting a 3.9Ghz wall was very common on the 1600 and below.

I cant find anything online about updating without a usb stick, could you link me

 

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