Ryzen and RTX Build Choice

[KjelbasiorLTU]

MAIN BOARD: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE Processor family AMD, Processor socket AM4, DDR4 DIMM, Memory slots 4, Chipset AMD B, ATX
CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 3600 AM4, (32M Cache, 6x4.2GHz) 65W, Hexa-Core #12 of Threads
CPU COOLER: AMD WRAITH PRISM
GPU: RTX 2060 Super 8gb
RAM: 16GB ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D41 3200MHz CL16 RGB or ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D60 DDR4 3200MHz CL16 RGB
PSU: Corsair CX Series™ CX650
SSD: 512GB ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO NVMe M.2 Up to 3500 / 2300MB/s
PC CASE: Aerocool TOR ARGB


1. I just want your opinion and what could I maybe change
2. I live in Lithuania
3. It's for gaming newest games on Ultra settings and some VR .
4. Budget is 1000EUR and yeah this now is a bit over the top

[Samfisher]

I would swap that SSD to a Silicon Power P34A80 or a similar Phison E12 controller drive.  The rest looks good enough.  The SX8200 firmware is not optimized at all.

[KjelbasiorLTU]

6 minutes ago, Samfisher said:

I would swap that SSD to a Silicon Power P34A80 or a similar Phison E12 controller drive.  The rest looks good enough.  The SX8200 firmware is not optimized at all.

Kingston SSD 500GB KC2000 M.2 2280 NVMe What about this ?

[Samfisher]

3 minutes ago, KjelbasiorLTU said:

Kingston SSD 500GB KC2000 M.2 2280 NVMe What about this ?

The Kingston and ADATA use the same controllers, therefore share the same problem.  They're fine for day to day use tho, just don't get it full.

[KjelbasiorLTU]

Just now, Samfisher said:

The Kingston and ADATA use the same controllers, therefore share the same problem.  They're fine for day to day use tho, just don't get it full.

so what would be the best use? just write your games what you want to play for the rest of your life and windows ? and don't write full ?

[Samfisher]

Just now, KjelbasiorLTU said:

so what would be the best use? just write your games what you want to play for the rest of your life and windows ? and don't write full ?

Just don't keep it with less than 30GB of space free.  The Silicon Motion controllers and their updated firmware that are in the SX8200 and KC2000 prioritize burst speeds, but not sustained speeds.  They also have a very weird caching system where they use almost half their NAND as SLC cache so if you ever transfer large files and you're low-ish on space, the controller has to keep reconfiguring itself, thus dropping transfer speeds down to 1GBps or so from the 3GBps you would get regularly.  That's really the only difference.  I have the SX8200 as my OS drive, and I'm never filling it up to full but I also have a Phison E12 drive for my games and I've performed tests on both and the SX8200 will always plunge downwards in transfer speeds and access times.

 

For most people it wouldn't ever matter, I'm just nitpicky

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13112/the-adata-sx8200-gammix-s11-nvme-ssd-review

[boggy77]

I thought the sx8200 has phison controllers? Maybe i'm wrong.

I'd also change the motherboard to a msi one. The max series are guaranteed to be compatible with ryzen 3000 cpus and also have better vrm's. You can't really upgrade to a 3900x for example on the gigabyte board, but you can on a tomahawk or a a-pro or a gaming plus.

 

Edit: checked and the adata has the smi controllers. But i thought it's as good as the drives with phison controllers?

[boggy77]

Also, what model is the gpu? Some have bad coolers.

[KjelbasiorLTU]

2 minutes ago, Samfisher said:

Just don't keep it with less than 30GB of space free.  The Silicon Motion controllers and their updated firmware that are in the SX8200 and KC2000 prioritize burst speeds, but not sustained speeds.  They also have a very weird caching system where they use almost half their NAND as SLC cache so if you ever transfer large files and you're low-ish on space, the controller has to keep reconfiguring itself, thus dropping transfer speeds down to 1GBps or so from the 3GBps you would get regularly.  That's really the only difference.  I have the SX8200 as my OS drive, and I'm never filling it up to full but I also have a Phison E12 drive for my games and I've performed tests on both and the SX8200 will always plunge downwards in transfer speeds and access times.

 

For most people it wouldn't ever matter, I'm just nitpicky

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13112/the-adata-sx8200-gammix-s11-nvme-ssd-review

Okey, thank you.

[VEXICUS]

16 minutes ago, Samfisher said:

Just don't keep it with less than 30GB of space free.  The Silicon Motion controllers and their updated firmware that are in the SX8200 and KC2000 prioritize burst speeds, but not sustained speeds.  They also have a very weird caching system where they use almost half their NAND as SLC cache so if you ever transfer large files and you're low-ish on space, the controller has to keep reconfiguring itself, thus dropping transfer speeds down to 1GBps or so from the 3GBps you would get regularly.  That's really the only difference.  I have the SX8200 as my OS drive, and I'm never filling it up to full but I also have a Phison E12 drive for my games and I've performed tests on both and the SX8200 will always plunge downwards in transfer speeds and access times.

 

For most people it wouldn't ever matter, I'm just nitpicky

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13112/the-adata-sx8200-gammix-s11-nvme-ssd-review

I guess you are confused between sx8200 and sx8200pro.

sx8200 pro and kc2000 both use SMI SM2262EN, whereas the sx8200 uses the older SMI SM2262.

The problems you mentioned above are based on sx8200 and gammix s11. Both of them use SMI SM2262.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13759/comparing-adata-sx8200-pro-vs-hp-ex950

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-ssd,5955-5.html

[KjelbasiorLTU]

4 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

I guess you are confused between sx8200 and sx8200pro.

sx8200 pro and kc2000 both use SMI SM2262EN, whereas the sx8200 uses the older SMI SM2262.

The problems you mentioned above are based on sx8200 and gammix s11. Both of them use SMI SM2262.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13759/comparing-adata-sx8200-pro-vs-hp-ex950

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-ssd,5955-5.html

So what should I pick or stay with this ssd ?

[VEXICUS]

4 minutes ago, KjelbasiorLTU said:

So what should I pick or stay with this ssd ?

SX8200 Pro is a great choice.

 

 

[KjelbasiorLTU]

4 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

8200 PRO IS A GREAT CHOICE

okey, thanks

[KjelbasiorLTU]

31 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Also, what model is the gpu? Some have bad coolers.

What you recommend ?

[boggy77]

3 minutes ago, KjelbasiorLTU said:

What you recommend ?

not sure what you have access in the shops you're buying from. do you have a list?

 

Tier A High end (great PCB, hybrid/watercooled cards)

Asus: ROG Matrix, ROG Poseidon

Evga: FTW3 Hybrid, XC Hybrid Gaming, FTW3 Hydro Copper

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

MSI: Sea Hawk (X)

 

Tier B High-Midrange (great PCB, high end cooler)

Asus: ROG Strix

Evga: FTW3 Ultra/Elite, XC Ultra, XC2 Ultra, FTW 3

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme, Aorus

Inno3D: iChill (Black)

MSI: Gaming (X) Trio, Lightning X, Duke

Zotac: AMP! Extreme (Core), AMP! Omega, AMP MAXX

 

Tier C Midrange (good PCB, midrange cooler)

Colorful: Vulcan X (OC)

Evga: SC2, XC Black

Galax: SG

Gigabyte: Gaming OC, OC Black

Nvidia: Founders

MSI: Gaming Z, Armor, Gaming (X)

Palit: (Super) Jetstream

PNY: XLR8

Zotac: AMP

[KjelbasiorLTU]

36 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Also, what model is the gpu? Some have bad coolers.

KFA2, Palit, MSI, Gigabyte or Gainward these ones.

[Samfisher]

16 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

I guess you are confused between sx8200 and sx8200pro.

sx8200 pro and kc2000 both use SMI SM2262EN, whereas the sx8200 uses the older SMI SM2262.

The problems you mentioned above are based on sx8200 and gammix s11. Both of them use SMI SM2262.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13759/comparing-adata-sx8200-pro-vs-hp-ex950

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-ssd,5955-5.html

I linked the wrong article but my post is true for the SX8200 Pro, which is also what I have.  I forgot there was a non-Pro model.  The article you linked explicitly highlighted the problems I did.  SM2262EN and its new firmware are the issue.