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Gen 3 NVMe SSD or Gen 4 on Z390 Motherboard

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I'd get pcie 4.0 seeing that it's backwards compatible to run at gen 3 mode and you can move it to a new system for more speed.

This is my personal opinion though and you can't go wrong with a nvme at this time, since usually the cpu ends up being a bottle neck anyway.

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Is a Gen 3 NVMe SSD better (Samsung 970 Evo Plus) or a Gen 4 NVMe better (Seagate Firecuda 520) on a Z390 motherboard?  Currently the Firegate 520 is cheaper than the Samsung 970 Evo Plus, and since the Gen 4 will downgrade its speeds, should I buy off brand or is the Firecuda faster because it downgrades to the maximum of Gen 3 SSDs?

 

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Gen 4 is in theory faster

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I'd get pcie 4.0 seeing that it's backwards compatible to run at gen 3 mode and you can move it to a new system for more speed.

This is my personal opinion though and you can't go wrong with a nvme at this time, since usually the cpu ends up being a bottle neck anyway.

CPU: Intel core i7-8086K Case: CORSAIR Crystal 570X RGB CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB Storage: Samsung 980 Pro - 2TB NVMe SSD PSU: EVGA 1000 GQ, 80+ GOLD 1000W, Semi Modular GPU: MSI Radeon RX 580 GAMING X 8G RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200mhz Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E Gaming

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15 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

I'd get pcie 4.0 seeing that it's backwards compatible to run at gen 3 mode and you can move it to a new system for more speed.

This is my personal opinion though and you can't go wrong with a nvme at this time, since usually the cpu ends up being a bottle neck anyway.

So is the i7 9700 non k with the nvme gen 4 a bottleneck then?

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1 minute ago, Lapjun said:

So is the i7 9700 non k with the nvme gen 4 a bottleneck then?

No it's fine.

It's only if you are transferring massive files from one drive to another.

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Just now, Lapjun said:

So is the i7 9700 non k with the nvme gen 4 a bottleneck then?

It's more about diminishing returns on both gen 3 and 4, usually I find that the cpu can't actually support the speed the compressed data is sent to it, like games or programs. And in programs where it can handle the speed, the program usually has limits set on itself so it can run properly. So faster ssd usually only show their true speed when the data doesn't need read, like when it's being transferred to another drive.

CPU: Intel core i7-8086K Case: CORSAIR Crystal 570X RGB CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB Storage: Samsung 980 Pro - 2TB NVMe SSD PSU: EVGA 1000 GQ, 80+ GOLD 1000W, Semi Modular GPU: MSI Radeon RX 580 GAMING X 8G RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200mhz Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E Gaming

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10 hours ago, Lapjun said:

Is a Gen 3 NVMe SSD better (Samsung 970 Evo Plus) or a Gen 4 NVMe better (Seagate Firecuda 520) on a Z390 motherboard?  Currently the Firegate 520 is cheaper than the Samsung 970 Evo Plus, and since the Gen 4 will downgrade its speeds, should I buy off brand or is the Firecuda faster because it downgrades to the maximum of Gen 3 SSDs?

 

The 970 EVO Plus is a superior drive (in my opinion) and in general I'd tell people to avoid the current 4.0 drives. Although neither of these facts has to do with the Z390.

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I think gen 4 ssd might only work on x570 because z390 hasnt supported ssd gen 4 yet.

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