ram Running xmp with combination

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Right now, in my rig I got 1 pair of corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R (on xmp 1600mhz cl8) 4GB and 1 pair of samsung M378B5173QH0-CK0 (base 1600mhz cl11) 4GB (total 16GB)

With the samsung ram in the system, i cannot run xmp so i am stuck at cl11, but i can force my ram to run 1600 since corsair can run 1600 beside xmp.
For me to be able to run xmp, i'd have to switch out the samsung ram, but my question is, do i need to use the same exact ram modules as corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R which is 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 OR could I get any type of ram (like kingston hyperx, crucial, etc.) that supports 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 and I could still run xmp just fine?
I do not want to switch my entire ram config for a new 16gb kit one, not one of my options.

Any help appreciated.

I'd get the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R however I cant find it anywhere, i found one kit ages ago so i bought it, but getting another one is so hard, looked up my local shopping sites, ebay, chinese sites etc etc.

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9 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

are those the corsair vengeance products? 
the answer is yes btw, same manufacturer, same type, same size

yes
and you did not answer my question
My question was whether i can run XMP WITHOUT adding the same CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R kit, like could i add some ram that has same properties as CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R (1600mhz 8-8-8-24) maybe some kingston or crucial or ballistix that is 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 and still be able to run xmp?
Can i run XMP with different brands but same properties? i guess you can put it like that
Example: If i was to have Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R (1600mhz 8-8-8-24) 8GB (2x4) and crucial ballistix BLT4G3D1608DT1TX0 (1600mhz 8-8-8-24) 8GB (2x4)
Would I be able to run XMP?
Without xmp my ram runs at 1333mhz cl11, but i can only force the frequency up to 1600 but cas latency stays same cl11 without xmp
My goal is to run xmp without buying the same modules of ram that already support xmp (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R), instead buying something like BLT4G3D1608DT1TX0

[Beerzerker]

It depends on how the manufacturer programmed XMP profiles into the sticks. They differ from make to make and model, that includes the IC's used in the sticks and yes even if the make and model are the same it can depend on the version/revision of the sticks too, that being an indiator of what IC's the sticks would have.

While it is possible, for the most part I'd have to say your chances of finding sticks that are of different makes/models using the same XMP profile isn't that good.

 

Would be best to have them all the same right down to the version/revision so the IC's and XMP profile programming matches between all sticks in use.

 

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5 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

It depends on how the manufacturer programmed XMP profiles into the sticks. They differ from make to make and model, that includes the IC's used in the sticks and yes even if the make and model are the same it can depend on the version/revision of the sticks too, that being an indiator of what IC's the sticks would have.

While it is possible, for the most part I'd have to say your chances of finding sticks that are of different makes/models using the same XMP profile isn't that good.

 

Would be best to have them all the same right down to the version/revision so the IC's and XMP profile programming matches between all sticks in use.

 

coincidentally i found CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 without the R at the end (probably just stands for red), same timings frequency, corsair just not the same revision (2.xx) while mine being (7.xx)
I'll buy it, it surely cant, or it shouldn't run cl11, if anything i can try manual tuning it to cl8 in the bios.
Well xmp isn't necessary its just me being lazy to manual tune it, i'm sure i can reach xmp properties in manual tuning of the timings right?

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Actually - It's not guaranteed.
That's why I referred to the version/revision of a stick.

 

With that said I suspect the IC's are different and would act differently too if you OC them but it's definitely possible to run them together at their rated stock speed.