Memory Problems

[Oli1549]

Hello, I am having trouble with my RAM always being high, I've done lots of research and done a lot of things on the internet. On my Operating System only it runs at around 50% 

Here you can see i am only running Arma and Chrome and receiving 80%+

https://prnt.sc/qkl63l

 

I have 16GB of RAM and never had a problem, Is this a realistic problem or not?

[Jurrunio]

you didnt list them out in decreasing order of RAM usage...

[Oli1549]

My Bad, Here you go. http://prntscr.com/qklai7

[kelvinhall05]

5 minutes ago, Oli1549 said:

My Bad, Here you go. http://prntscr.com/qklai7

Quote people when you reply so that they get a notification.

 

Seems like a bunch of programs are using a few hundred MB of RAM and those programs add up quickly. I would start by closing what you don't need open all the time.

[Oli1549]

1 minute ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Quote people when you reply so that they get a notification.

 

Seems like a bunch of programs are using a few hundred MB of RAM and those programs add up quickly. I would start by closing what you don't need open all the time.

You really think that is the reason? i've never had a problem before!

[Eigenvektor]

1 minute ago, Oli1549 said:

You really think that is the reason? i've never had a problem before!

If you add up just the numbers visible in your screenshot, you're already at 8 GB, so 50%. If you switch to the performance tab, you'll probably see that Windows also uses some RAM as cache (which isn't bad, that memory will be made available when needed).

[Oli1549]

4 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

If you add up just the numbers visible in your screenshot, you're already at 8 GB, so 50%. If you switch to the performance tab, you'll probably see that Windows also uses some RAM as cache (which isn't bad, that memory will be made available when needed).

Ok, I have never looked at that cache before, the cache is completely reserved then? never used by other programs? I have just put a order in for 2x16gb ram so that should cover it

[Eigenvektor]

1 minute ago, Oli1549 said:

Ok, I have never looked at that cache before, the cache is completely reserved then? never used by other programs? I have just put a order in for 2x16gb ram so that should cover it

No, that is pretty much the opposite of what I said.

 

The cache is used to speed up the startup of programs. Windows will make that memory available to apps when they need it (i.e. it will drop the cache so the memory can be used by apps). Think of the cache as "unused" in a way, because Windows will only keep that memory reserved so long as applications do not require that additional memory.

 

Instead of ordering more memory, I'd try to go with @kelvinhall05's advice. Close stuff you're not actively using. Do you need both TS and Discord open at the same time? What about Steam, Arma 3 Launcher, Malwarebytes? That's probably .5–1 GB you could get rid of right there.

[Oli1549]

1 minute ago, Eigenvektor said:

No, that is pretty much the opposite of what I said.

 

The cache is used to speed up the startup of programs. Windows will make that memory available to apps when they need it (i.e. it will drop the cache so the memory can be used by apps). Think of the cache as "unused" in a way, because Windows will only keep that memory reserved so long as applications do not require that additional memory.

 

Instead of ordering more memory, I'd try to go with @kelvinhall05's advice. Close stuff you're not actively using. Do you need both TS and Discord open at the same time? What about Steam, Arma 3 Launcher, Malwarebytes? That's probably .5–1 GB you could get rid of right there.

My thoughts were that i had a memory leak, if im simply using all of my RAM im more than happy to expand, i arent one that wants to worry about closing apps because of ram usage, i just have the leave the 50 chrome tabs open! Shouldn't have any more problems with the upgrade though!?

[Eigenvektor]

1 minute ago, Oli1549 said:

My thoughts were that i had a memory leak, if im simply using all of my RAM im more than happy to expand, i arent one that wants to worry about closing apps because of ram usage, i just have the leave the 50 chrome tabs open! Shouldn't have any more problems with the upgrade though!?

A memory leak is a bug in a specific program. You'd have to see the program use more and more memory until that one program uses all of it. That happens when a program reserves memory "forgets about it" and then reserves more, never freeing the memory it reserved. Unless you can observe such behavior in one of the programs you're using, it's not a memory leak.

 

I mean, it's your money If you want to upgrade, go for it.

[Oli1549]

1 minute ago, Eigenvektor said:

A memory leak is a bug in a specific program. You'd have to see the program use more and more memory until that one program uses all of it. That happens when a program reserves memory "forgets about it" and then reserves more, never freeing the memory it reserved. Unless you can observe such behavior in one of the programs you're using, it's not a memory leak.

 

I mean, it's your money If you want to upgrade, go for it.

Yeah exactly why i felt it was a leak, because it has got worse and worse, ive never had any issues with 16gb of ram. Only recently started having more and more problems.

[Eigenvektor]

8 minutes ago, Oli1549 said:

Yeah exactly why i felt it was a leak, because it has got worse and worse, ive never had any issues with 16gb of ram. Only recently started having more and more problems.

Like I said in that case you'd have to see one program use all of it and its use would have to go up over time until your system grinds to a halt. Some time ago some background indexing tool that I had installed on Linux had a memory leak. It took about 1-2 hours for this one program to use all of my memory. As soon as it started to eat up swap the system would essentially come to a full stop until it was rebooted. It took several minutes just to open a task manager to see what was going on.

 

In other words I'm pretty sure what you're seeing is not a memory leak. Having a ton of apps open that all use a little bit of memory is not a memory leak.

[mormoloc1986]

On 1/8/2020 at 12:59 AM, Oli1549 said:

Here you can see i am only running Arma and Chrome and receiving 80%+

it's the web browsers's fault. my opera shows up in task manager 26 times, i mean as 26 opera processes and make my pc run slower. it helps to install the 32 bit version.