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Mobile RTX 2060 power limit ?

NoGanksEric

Hey there, 

 

I recently got myself an HP Omen 15dh0004ng and i really love it. 

It has an Rtx 2060 and a i9 9750h 

But theres one thing i noticed. The Rtx 2060 allthough it should be identical to the desktop card is a lot slower. in sottr on ultra im only getting 45 fps compared to 55 on desktop.

Si i researched and found out my card is clocked significantly lower than the desktop card to achieve a 200 watts power limit. so far so good.

THEN i installed msi afterburner too verifiy the articles were right and thats where something interesting accourred. 

 

msi afterburner confirmed the 900-1200mhz clocks BUT when im ingame for example in sottr it shows clock speeds of up to 1500mhz. but with no performance impact. 

so i tried to dig a little deeper and installed hwmonitor. and it shows me the gpu power limit is reached at 1200mhz. 

so my guess is that the gpu has a software power limit that is way way too low. msi afterburner tries to clock my gpu much higher since it thinks theres enaugh headroom (wich there is)

but it cant because at 1200mhz the gpu throttles.

 

my question now. It somehow must be possible to deactivate this power limit at 1200mhz. i mean msi afterburner know i have a 200 watts power supply so it wont to anything unreasonable. i believe if i disabel this power limit and let msi afterburner decide on its own how far the clocks can go i can get much much better performance of almost desktop grade. 

 

whats your opinion ? do you know how to disable this power limit ?

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Your power brick only 200w? Your proc need 70w-80w, other components maybe need around 20w so that left 100w for your 2060. 

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well it seems like every mobile rtx2060 is throttled to a max of 90 watts. and alsmost every laptop has only 200watts ^^

but all i do is gaming. and on an 2 core load my cpu doesnt need 80 watts so msi afterburner may use the free watts gained by that and clock a little higher 

 

like i said i dont think msi afterburner is doing something unreasonable with the clocks

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Maybe you can check GPU-Z the actual power limit in Advanced tab.

 

Desktop RTX 2060 boost to 1.9k-2.0k and consume like 170w. Your i9 consume 45w@2.6ghz all core, even if it only use 2 cores it might boost much higher and consume more than 45w. Not to mention your storage, RAM, cooling system.

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14 minutes ago, NoGanksEric said:

but all i do is gaming. and on an 2 core load my cpu doesnt need 80 watts so msi afterburner may use the free watts gained by that and clock a little higher 

Doesnt matter, it wont break the bios power limit regardless.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Well on GPU-Z i can only find a temperature limit of 87 degree but theres the same weird thing. on the front page it says 900-1200mhz clocks and i i turn on msi kombustor it shows me clocks of 1300-1500mhz but those are not beeing applied

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Doesnt matter, it wont break the bios power limit regardless.

yes i know but how can i change that ? 

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25 minutes ago, NoGanksEric said:

yes i know but how can i change that ? 

It's locked for mobile GPUs

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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