Long Run Pc

[Dgmonte]

Hey there, so here is the thing, i have a pc that is from 2008 or something, Quad Core, 4gb of ram, old GTX 960 etc... and it kind of last for like 6-8 years for me , without upgrades, played my games, studied graphics design, programing and learned to work with linux fedora for work, so now i want to build another new pc, to last like this, 5-6 years , just change maybe the graphics card, and now that i make a little more money, maybe the CPU, the thing is , i always went for intel, but now i am looking at Ryzen , the Ryzen 5 3600 for start and then go for a Ryzen 7, my question is, for a long term, shoul i go with intel based motherboards or ryzen ? witch is better for a build like this for a long run? Is Corsair Hydro series H60 a good choice for that too? here is my list, i may have some

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https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/OHQSMXNE80ZD?ref_=wl_share

[Fasauceome]

11 minutes ago, Dgmonte said:

shoul i go with intel based motherboards or ryzen ?

current Intel motherboards are on their last CPU cycle, while buying Ryzen lets you upgrade to next gen. 

 

consider this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ B&H
Memory	GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$55.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial BX500 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$89.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$474.98 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$98.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard	$129.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer Naga Trinity Wired Optical Mouse	$74.00 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1343.91
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1323.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-04 10:06 EST-0500

 

[Bitter]

Ah but also bear in mind that this next line of Ryzen CPU are supposed to be the last ones on AM4 socket, so maybe holding off a year to see what's coming next could be wise?

 

 

What do you have now exactly? You could probably spend under $150 and upgrade the current to limp you through till the ends of the year and then decide once you know what AMD's new platform is and can gauge if there's features you'll need for the next 5-6 years or not. Also Intel may come to their senses and re-evaluate their price hierarchy and become a viable option for an affordable build again.

[Dgmonte]

11 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

current Intel motherboards are on their last CPU cycle, while buying Ryzen lets you upgrade to next gen. 

 

consider this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ B&H
Memory	GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$55.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial BX500 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$89.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$474.98 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$98.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow Elite Wired Gaming Keyboard	$129.99 @ Amazon
Mouse	Razer Naga Trinity Wired Optical Mouse	$74.00 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1343.91
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1323.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-04 10:06 EST-0500

 

thanks will use that 

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Ah but also bear in mind that this next line of Ryzen CPU are supposed to be the last ones on AM4 socket, so maybe holding off a year to see what's coming next could be wise?

While this is true, the highest end CPU you can get on AM4 right now (nevermind Ryzen 4000) is a 16 core, with similar single core performance to the 9900K, Z390's highest end option. So by going with Ryzen, you have a lot more options in terms of upgradability, say for example, from a Ryzen 5 3600 (up to 8, 12 or 16 cores), whereas with Z390, you can only go up to 8 cores.

[Dgmonte]

12 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Ah but also bear in mind that this next line of Ryzen CPU are supposed to be the last ones on AM4 socket, so maybe holding off a year to see what's coming next could be wise?

 

 

What do you have now exactly? You could probably spend under $150 and upgrade the current to limp you through till the ends of the year and then decide once you know what AMD's new platform is and can gauge if there's features you'll need for the next 5-6 years or not. Also Intel may come to their senses and re-evaluate their price hierarchy and become a viable option for an affordable build again.

well what i have is an very old pc , i mistake the graphics card earlier, its not an gtx 960, its much worse

Motherboard:Asus P5KPL-AM

Hd: Seagate 1TB

CPU: Quad Core (dont remember witch one now)

Video : Geforce 9600 GT

Ram: 4GB the max the motherboard can take

 

was thinking to get an 1050ti there just to play other games there like run better on skyrim, or see if in starcraft 2 i can play with graphics on max etc

[Bitter]

15 minutes ago, Dgmonte said:

well what i have is an very old pc , i mistake the graphics card earlier, its not an gtx 960, its much worse

Motherboard:Asus P5KPL-AM

Hd: Seagate 1TB

CPU: Quad Core (dont remember witch one now)

Video : Geforce 9600 GT

Ram: 4GB the max the motherboard can take

 

was thinking to get an 1050ti there just to play other games there like run better on skyrim, or see if in starcraft 2 i can play with graphics on max etc

That makes more sense. It's time to just build an entirely new system, case and power supply as well since a power supply from that long ago probably isn't very good by current standards. I think any modern graphics card is going to be bottlenecked by the CPU in that system, the best one you could put in is a Q9650 but those go for $50, you could probably get a slightly lesser Q9xxx CPU for substantially less and just overclock it with good cooling and probably gain more than you think but you'd still be beating a dead horse.

 

You could grab a somewhat decent B450 board, a Ryzen 5 1600 'AF', 16GB DDR4, and a GTX 1650, a budget case, and a 500-600W Gold PSU and have a somewhat decent computer but an amazing computer compared to what you've been using.

[Dgmonte]

35 minutes ago, Bitter said:

That makes more sense. It's time to just build an entirely new system, case and power supply as well since a power supply from that long ago probably isn't very good by current standards. I think any modern graphics card is going to be bottlenecked by the CPU in that system, the best one you could put in is a Q9650 but those go for $50, you could probably get a slightly lesser Q9xxx CPU for substantially less and just overclock it with good cooling and probably gain more than you think but you'd still be beating a dead horse.

 

You could grab a somewhat decent B450 board, a Ryzen 5 1600 'AF', 16GB DDR4, and a GTX 1650, a budget case, and a 500-600W Gold PSU and have a somewhat decent computer but an amazing computer compared to what you've been using.

Thats why i am going for an ryzen 5 3600 build, but upgradable , used the Linus 900$ Ryzen Build for a start but still want a pc that i can use to last, spend more now and less in 3 years

[Dgmonte]

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[Dgmonte]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

That makes more sense. It's time to just build an entirely new system, case and power supply as well since a power supply from that long ago probably isn't very good by current standards. I think any modern graphics card is going to be bottlenecked by the CPU in that system, the best one you could put in is a Q9650 but those go for $50, you could probably get a slightly lesser Q9xxx CPU for substantially less and just overclock it with good cooling and probably gain more than you think but you'd still be beating a dead horse.

 

You could grab a somewhat decent B450 board, a Ryzen 5 1600 'AF', 16GB DDR4, and a GTX 1650, a budget case, and a 500-600W Gold PSU and have a somewhat decent computer but an amazing computer compared to what you've been using.

 i think the last thing i will do with it after i build a new one is to make it a fedora linux server, just to use it inside my house, manage internet and things my kids can access and some cloud storage or something, i think i can still use this very old machine in a good use, maybe transform it to an arcade unit too

[Bitter]

6 minutes ago, Dgmonte said:

 i think the last thing i will do with it after i build a new one is to make it a fedora linux server, just to use it inside my house, manage internet and things my kids can access and some cloud storage or something, i think i can still use this very old machine in a good use, maybe transform it to an arcade unit too

For those purposes it would likely work fine, if you're just using it to serve media then pull the video card and just run the onboard graphics since you don't need the extra power/heat from that. It'll be a little bit of a power hog in that capacity but it would do fine processing power wise. I suppose you could even down-grade the CPU to something more power efficient but that's spending more money.