CPU + which GPU?

[vazful]

Hello. So i have this CPU -> Intel Pentium G4560 and i was wondering if i should get a GPU from AMD or Nvidia, would i have compatibility issues if i get AMD?

[Akira Shimazu]

nope.

[Malick Barr]

Nope but the gpu might bottleneck.

Try on Google bottleneck calculator. Add your processor and any gpu(even you can try rtx 2080) then run calculate. It will automatically show you the non-bottlenecked gpu for processor.

[vazful]

@Malick BarrCorrect me if i am wrong but bottlenecking means that i wont get full advantage of the GPU WITHOUT any actual negative side effects right?

[Akira Shimazu]

14 minutes ago, vazful said:

@Malick BarrCorrect me if i am wrong but bottlenecking means that i wont get full advantage of the GPU WITHOUT any actual negative side effects right?

screen tearing could happened

[Malick Barr]

58 minutes ago, vazful said:

@Malick BarrCorrect me if i am wrong but bottlenecking means that i wont get full advantage of the GPU WITHOUT any actual negative side effects right?

No not much negative effects.

Just you won't be able to use full potential of gpu(if too powerful for CPU) or CPU(if too powerful for gpu which is very less in cases).

 

Getting a AMD or Nvidia card doesn't matter for system, only matter for your wallet.

If u have the budget choose any company, there would be no compatibility issues.( Just remember bottleneck not to raise over 50% according to me.)

 

Here's the website to check:

 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/

[vazful]

What if u dont play games that push your CPU/GPU even if one of these components bottlenecks the other? For example. Say you have Core i3 and an RTX 2080 but you play Warcraft 3. In this case, would there be AN ACTUAL harm to any of the components in the build? Or maybe u would spend more electricity?

[BTGbullseye]

On 12/25/2019 at 5:33 AM, vazful said:

Intel Pentium G4560

I wouldn't put anything more powerful than an RX 580 or 5500XT in there. On the plus side, those are cheap, and a very good value for the performance. (Nvidia is more expensive for the same performance)

[vazful]

Well, i was thinking, if im not going to have a problem with a good GPU considering i have this CPU and i wont play games that this CPU normally wouldnt be able to run then i get a good GPU now and later i get a good CPU as well. This is what im thinking..

[BTGbullseye]

10 minutes ago, vazful said:

Well, i was thinking, if im not going to have a problem with a good GPU considering i have this CPU and i wont play games that this CPU normally wouldnt be able to run then i get a good GPU now and later i get a good CPU as well. This is what im thinking..

What GPU do you have right now?

 

Also, please quote us so we know you're responding to us.

[vazful]

3 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

What GPU do you have right now?

 

Also, please quote us so we know you're responding to us.

no GPU, the integrated one from the CPU.

[BTGbullseye]

9 minutes ago, vazful said:

no GPU, the integrated one from the CPU.

In that case, you can either go for an RX 570 for under $150USD, (unless your PSU can't handle it, in which case you'll be paying more for a replacement for that too) or upgrade your entire system to a much better one that also has an integrated GPU. (Ryzen 5 3400G will have about 5x the GPU performance, and about 1.5x the CPU performance)

[vazful]

well, this is my PSU https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-520-SS-520GB-Capacitor/dp/B00390P1NO

@BTGbullseye

[Whiro]

1 minute ago, vazful said:

well, this is my PSU https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-520-SS-520GB-Capacitor/dp/B00390P1NO

Not the worst psu but not great either. I would consider swapping it in near future just in case. But you should be good tbh to just drop some gpu in there

[BTGbullseye]

4 minutes ago, vazful said:

well, this is my PSU https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-S12II-520-SS-520GB-Capacitor/dp/B00390P1NO

@BTGbullseye

That should be OK, but it's right on the edge of OK. It'd do much better with the new CPU/motherboard/RAM than it would with just dropping in a 570. (lower power draw, by a LOT)

[MadAnt250]

On 12/25/2019 at 8:42 AM, Malick Barr said:

Here's the website to check:

 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/

I do not recommend bottleneck calculators because they can be misleading.

 

On 12/25/2019 at 7:33 AM, vazful said:

Hello. So i have this CPU -> Intel Pentium G4560 and i was wondering if i should get a GPU from AMD or Nvidia, would i have compatibility issues if i get AMD?

What is your budget? 

[BTGbullseye]

6 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

I do not recommend bottleneck calculators because they can be misleading.

Especially that one, considering it recommends "a minimum of 64GB of RAM" for my 3600 + 5700XT system.

[Malick Barr]

16 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

I do not recommend bottleneck calculators because they can be misleading.

They are not perfect but they give you a rough idea.

[Malick Barr]

Rx 480 with that psu and cpu might do well but you might need to upgrade your psu for better future.

 

Also please tell how old that psu is? Cause psu can wear and tear down over long periods.

[Whiro]

3 minutes ago, Malick Barr said:

They are not perfect but they give you a rough idea.

Best idea is to ask ppl which have experience in that

[Sir0Tek]

Even the Radeon rx 460 or r7 370 will be sufficient for this dual core cpu. Or the 1050/1050 ti for what it's worth. Since you're used to iGPU so far these already are a giant step forward.

Your PSU is sufficient to provide enough wattage even for rtx-series gpus, hence the criticism of your PSU is due to it's aged design (some would even argue with noise), not about insufficiency or danger.

[Lorant]

On 12/26/2019 at 6:23 AM, vazful said:

What if u dont play games that push your CPU/GPU even if one of these components bottlenecks the other? For example. Say you have Core i3 and an RTX 2080 but you play Warcraft 3. In this case, would there be AN ACTUAL harm to any of the components in the build? Or maybe u would spend more electricity?

Where do you get the concept of ACTUAL HARM?  What made you think that components can actually be damaged by so called bottlenecks?

 

Wherever that is, stop reading that site.  Whoever that is, unfriend them.  If it's your parents, move out.

 

[vazful]

On 12/27/2019 at 3:06 PM, Sir0Tek said:

Even the Radeon rx 460 or r7 370 will be sufficient for this dual core cpu. Or the 1050/1050 ti for what it's worth. Since you're used to iGPU so far these already are a giant step forward.

Your PSU is sufficient to provide enough wattage even for rtx-series gpus, hence the criticism of your PSU is due to it's aged design (some would even argue with noise), not about insufficiency or danger.

Even for like a GTX 1660?
I dont mind the noise, if its actually sufficient and safe. Thats what i want to know. But i can upgrade it later just to be safe.
The TOP GPU i would get is something like an GTX 1660, so it would be appreciated if you guys could recommend PSUs with required characteristics for it. I mean, what matters more after all, the Watts? or the 80+ plus bronze/gold etc?

[Sir0Tek]

It will be sufficient for 1660/1660ti as well. I don't care much about labels. O.K., efficiency is nice and the better... the better.

Usually I also don't look at wattages, but I do look at 12V+ amperes. And I do look at the inside of the PSU, usually by searching the net for information about the very PSU. There's a Tier list here at LTT and you should look into it. For most common setups Tier C is sufficient, pre Haswell systems can go with some PSUs of the Tier D listings as well. Danger? Pah, no risk no fun...

Seriously, the usual lifespan of a PSU in regular use is about 5-10 years and it's likely that your PSU isn't that new anymore and one day it will probably fail. So far I've had a lot of failing PSUs within the last 20 years but not a single one of them did damage to other components. Lucky me? Or unlucky those few(?) who didn't had the luck?

Ironically, pre 1995 PSUs on some legacy computers still work like a charm but they're rarely in use.