3900x vs 9900k

[NvidiaLoverIntel]

So the age old question that will have lots of mixed suggestions
I play games.. main focus, im running a 2080ti and I'm wondering if i would need to overclock the cpus to get the max fps possible or will stock be fine?

I do light work on Photoshop, blender, 
Which processor should I get? I've never had AMD so if overclocking is required on it, I'll be a bit skeptical judging from what people like Jayztwocents have said about it for this platform.
 

[Skiiwee29]

with AMD there is little to no head room to do any meaningful overclocking. Majority of times, leaving the 3000 series CPUs at stock provides better results in gaming compared to trying to manually overclocking them. I would get the 3900x personally. Its the better CPU overall. The only thing the 9900k would be best at is technically peak average frame rates, but AMD is so close you would never notice a difference in gaming, but will notice the difference in other applications, such as blender and photoshop.

[NvidiaLoverIntel]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

with AMD there is little to no head room to do any meaningful overclocking. Majority of times, leaving the 3000 series CPUs at stock provides better results in gaming compared to trying to manually overclocking them. I would get the 3900x personally. Its the better CPU overall. The only thing the 9900k would be best at is technically peak average frame rates, but AMD is so close you would never notice a difference in gaming, but will notice the difference in other applications, such as blender and photoshop.

Yeah I was thinking of the same thing, plus the extra 4 cores more future proof (I hate saying that but you guys know what i mean) Besides playing Triple A games, and my competitive go to CSGO, FPS wouldn't be that big of a difference? like 3-5? btw do you have a motherboard recommendation? if overclocking isn't really a thing does it matter what motherboard I get? 

[Skiiwee29]

4 minutes ago, NvidiaLoverIntel said:

Yeah I was thinking of the same thing, plus the extra 4 cores more future proof (I hate saying that but you guys know what i mean) Besides playing Triple A games, and my competitive go to CSGO, FPS wouldn't be that big of a difference? like 3-5? btw do you have a motherboard recommendation? if overclocking isn't really a thing does it matter what motherboard I get? 

VRM is still a large consideration to ensure good clean, stable power draw. I don't know much about it personally, but there is a list that ranks the boards based on there qualities. This would be a good spot to start researching and find the board that fits your budget and provides you what you need for connectivity.

 

 

[NvidiaLoverIntel]

6 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

VRM is still a large consideration to ensure good clean, stable power draw. I don't know much about it personally, but there is a list that ranks the boards based on there qualities. This would be a good spot to start researching and find the board that fits your budget and provides you what you need for connectivity.

 

 

thanks for the help, one alst question. Do you think a Ram upgrade is necessary? I currently have the G.Skill RGB trident Z 32gb 2400mhz kit

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, NvidiaLoverIntel said:

thanks for the help, one alst question. Do you think a Ram upgrade is necessary? I currently have the G.Skill RGB trident Z 32gb 2400mhz kit

yes, IMO 2400 is to low a speed for Ryzen and does hurt its performance. The sweet spot for the 3000 series is 3600mhz, but anything 3200 will be just fine as well.

[NvidiaLoverIntel]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

yes, IMO 2400 is to low a speed for Ryzen and does hurt its performance. The sweet spot for the 3000 series is 3600mhz, but anything 3200 will be just fine as well.

is that a simple XMP profile to toggle the 3600mhz or will it require manual settings? If it is just the XMP profiles would that change BCLK like the X99 platform(what I'm currently using) and cause instability?

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, NvidiaLoverIntel said:

is that a simple XMP profile to toggle the 3600mhz or will it require manual settings? If it is just the XMP profiles would that change BCLK like the X99 platform(what I'm currently using) and cause instability?

usually its as simple as enabling the XMP/DOCP in the BIOS, but not always. Sometimes you have to play with timings and voltages to get it fully stable. I know on my X370 Crosshair VI Hero, to have my RAM run at proper speeds, I had to set my SOC voltage from auto to a manual 1.15v to get it stable. But everyones experience is slightly different. Best when looking at new memory, use the motherboards QVL list and match it off that to get a kit the board manufacture has validated to work on that particular board.

[NvidiaLoverIntel]

7 minutes ago, Skiiwee29 said:

usually its as simple as enabling the XMP/DOCP in the BIOS, but not always. Sometimes you have to play with timings and voltages to get it fully stable. I know on my X370 Crosshair VI Hero, to have my RAM run at proper speeds, I had to set my SOC voltage from auto to a manual 1.15v to get it stable. But everyones experience is slightly different. Best when looking at new memory, use the motherboards QVL list and match it off that to get a kit the board manufacture has validated to work on that particular board.

So I found my ram but it says its a 16gb kit, could i pair two of the same kits on the motherboard? the QVL list doesn't say if there is 4dimm support but I don't know if thats because it defaults to that since its not a 32gb kit 4x8gb