My GPU has low utilization in games

[gr4nis]

Hey,

 

I bought new RTX 2070 SUPER (to be more specific: ASUS DUAL GeForce RTX2070S O8G EVO) and I'm having an weird issue with it. In every game, the utilization of the GPU is getting lower as I lower the settings. So let's say Shadow of the Tomb Raider, on 1440p, max settings, max AA, I have around 60 - 70 FPS with 93% to 98% GPU utilization . Then I lower settings to lowest and I have like 90 FPS with utilization around 50 - 60 %. Utilization also drops in every game randomly, like in Jedi Fallen Order I have frequent drops to 70% or so when I play.
First, I thought it's maybe some kind of CPU issue (I have Ryzen 5 1600) but I monitored CPU and none of it's cores/thread go above 80% in any of those game ever and I even OCed it from 3,2 to 3,9 and it didn't change a thing. 

I also tried to OC memory from 2666 to 3000 with maintaing good timings and that didn't help either. Also I flashed newest BIOS, reinstalled Windows, tried every single nVidia driver. Nothing helps. There is not even a thermal issue. GPU is under 70°C and CPU around 60°C at most.

 

Do you have any suggestions? I'm really clueless at this stage. Right now I play Gothic Playable Teaser and yes, it's kind of early developement version, so it can cause unexpected problems, but my GPU is utilized by this game to 50 - 70% and it runs 30 - 40 FPS. Which is just riddiculous.

 

Thanks.

[SavageNeo]

2 minutes ago, gr4nis said:

In every game, the utilization of the GPU is getting lower as I lower the settings.

That is normal, lower the settings the more load in cpu and less in gpu

 

3 minutes ago, gr4nis said:

o let's say Shadow of the Tomb Raider, on 1440p, max settings, max AA, I have around 60 - 70 FPS with 93% to 98% GPU utilization . Then I lower settings to lowest and I have like 90 FPS with utilization around 50 - 60 %

Normal again

 

3 minutes ago, gr4nis said:

Utilization also drops in every game randomly, like in Jedi Fallen Order I have frequent drops to 70% or so when I play.

It depends in the situation, When you are on intensive situations gpu gets more usage. Normal again.

[gr4nis]

26 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

31 minutes ago, gr4nis said:

o let's say Shadow of the Tomb Raider, on 1440p, max settings, max AA, I have around 60 - 70 FPS with 93% to 98% GPU utilization . Then I lower settings to lowest and I have like 90 FPS with utilization around 50 - 60 %

Normal again

So what if I want to play in 144 FPS (since I have 144Hz monitor.) I would expect that when I lower settings I'll be able to reach that FPS spot. But instead of that, the GPU just do less of the work and whatever settings I choose, it makes quite little difference to FPS. I would understand if I hit CPU bottleneck, but what really does prevent use more of GPU and produce more FPS? Because it's not CPU, it's not utilized to 100% either.

 

26 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

It depends in the situation, When you are on intensive situations gpu gets more usage. Normal again.

Well, the situation is as intesive as any other before, if not more. I don't have problem with utilization being low, I'm having problem, that utiization drops and so do the FPS. It's like 95% -> 70 FPS and then it drops and it's like 65% -> 40 FPS and I can feel that drop as a stutter and it's very distrubing.

[BTGbullseye]

8 hours ago, gr4nis said:

So what if I want to play in 144 FPS (since I have 144Hz monitor.) I would expect that when I lower settings I'll be able to reach that FPS spot. But instead of that, the GPU just do less of the work and whatever settings I choose, it makes quite little difference to FPS. I would understand if I hit CPU bottleneck, but what really does prevent use more of GPU and produce more FPS? Because it's not CPU, it's not utilized to 100% either.

If the game requires a high single core performance (like 99.9% do, including SotTR) it can bottleneck because of 1 core being maxed out, and everything else having to wait for it. (it can even show that your CPU is only at 25% usage) On the other hand, it could just be that the game devs never properly optimized the game for higher refresh rate. (that's about 90% of games, but not SotTR) Check and see if you have any framerate limiter or anti-lag settings enabled in your GPU driver, or maybe even a v-sync/g-sync setting.

 

The Ryzen 5 1600 is definitely going to be a significant bottleneck for high framerate gaming though. A 3600 is about 30% better performance, but with much stronger individual cores. Shouldn't even need to change anything else in your system apart from a BIOS update, unless the motherboard was a really cheap one. (that'll add about $70 to the price if you need a better motherboard)

[gr4nis]

7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

it can bottleneck because of 1 core being maxed out, and everything else having to wait for it.

I know, but I specifically checked for individual cores/threads and NONE of it was ever utilized to 100%. Maximum was about 84%. That's what puzzles me.

7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Check and see if you have any framerate limiter or anti-lag settings enabled in your GPU driver, or maybe even a v-sync/g-sync setting.

I did, I tinkered with settings in games, nVidia Control panel and Windows. Turned off and on game mode, limiters, V-sync, G-sync, selected "Prefer performance," and other things and it still acts stupid.

 

It's like GPU is fckin lazy. Like... "Nah, 70 FPS is just fine, I'm gonna run at 36% now, no pressure."

[BTGbullseye]

6 hours ago, gr4nis said:

I know, but I specifically checked for individual cores/threads and NONE of it was ever utilized to 100%. Maximum was about 84%. That's what puzzles me.

I did, I tinkered with settings in games, nVidia Control panel and Windows. Turned off and on game mode, limiters, V-sync, G-sync, selected "Prefer performance," and other things and it still acts stupid.

 

It's like GPU is fckin lazy. Like... "Nah, 70 FPS is just fine, I'm gonna run at 36% now, no pressure."

Sounds like there's a pretty significant driver issue.

 

Try installing an older driver. (or updating if you're not on the newest) Don't forget to DDU first!

[gr4nis]

44 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Sounds like there's a pretty significant driver issue.

 

Try installing an older driver. (or updating if you're not on the newest) Don't forget to DDU first!

Yes, it looks like driver issue to me too at this point. But I did fresh Windows install and tried (DDU-ed every time) probably every driver that was released and supports 2070S. And it still acts like this. It does my head in.

[MadAnt250]

On 12/21/2019 at 2:05 PM, gr4nis said:

Well, the situation is as intesive as any other before, if not more. I don't have problem with utilization being low, I'm having problem, that utiization drops and so do the FPS. It's like 95% -> 70 FPS and then it drops and it's like 65% -> 40 FPS and I can feel that drop as a stutter and it's very distrubing.

 

On 12/21/2019 at 1:42 PM, gr4nis said:

Utilization also drops in every game randomly, like in Jedi Fallen Order I have frequent drops to 70% or so

From my research the Jedi Fallen Order is not the best as for as FPS performance goes, a quick interweb search will tell you how bad it is. You will have to play around with your games detail settings, I would turn down the settings that effect the CPU more than the GPU to help with the stuttering.

Also, besides the two games you have mentioned what other games are you having this problem in?