Time for cpu upgrade ?

[Ebony Falcon]

Hola dos tacos,

I have a 8700k 5ghz, and a rtx 2080, 

iv been seeing all the new Ryzen cpus with all the cores, I mostly game but I feel like 8 cores is gonna he a minimum soon 

time to jump ship ? 

[Lazarus23]

You're totally fine for at least 2 years, unless you're gaming at 4K

[Flying Sausages]

Are you gaming only? 

[boggy77]

Edited:

8700k is 6c/12 thread, it's still one of the best cpu's out there for gaming. I would hold on to it until amd manages to get someting out that has more cores and can sustain 5ghz on all of them (hasn't happened yet).

[Daniel Z.]

8700k is more than enough for gaming and lighter workstation tasks.

[Daniel Z.]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

8700k is 8c/16 thread, it's still one of the best cpu's out there for gaming. I would hold on to it until amd manages to get someting out that has more cores and can sustain 5ghz on all of them (hasn't happened yet).

8700k is 6c/12t and AMDs new CPUs have similar/slightly better per core performance as the 8700k

[DoctorNick]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

8700k is 8c/16 thread, it's still one of the best cpu's out there for gaming. I would hold on to it until amd manages to get someting out that has more cores and can sustain 5ghz on all of them (hasn't happened yet).

Its 6c/12t though

[191x7]

The 8700K on default clocks performas similar to an Ryzen 5 3600, beating it in some titles by a nice margin. Overclcoked, I believe it's still great.

 

Also, going with a simple CPU upgrade (the i7 9900K runs on the same platform I think) would do you better than changing both the motherboard and CPU.

[Otto_iii]

The Ryzen CPUs are getting praise because they are basically as good at gaming, finally, but 200$ for the CPU equal to your 8700k, 300$ for a 8 core, and at high end offer 12 and 16 cores for serious production work (not so much gaming, more like video editing etc) Likewise they have some nice mobos options starting around 90$ or so (MSI MAX boards etc).  They bring great value and finally perform core for core similar to stuff like the 8700k, but for the time being you still have one fantastic gaming CPU, one of the best.

Check back when Ryzen 4000 launches in about a year, as that will likely bring more uplifts for AMD users, and it might be worth changing over as 6 cores finally might be restrictive in some games, likely DX12 games (8 cores maybe becoming more the standard), but for now you still have a fantastic CPU. 

What motherboard do you have? if its a decent z390 that can support it, then just stick with intel and wait till 9900k prices drop, which they surely will.  If not, wait for Ryzen 4000

[Otto_iii]

36 minutes ago, Natasha22 said:

what Minimum soon ? 55 % of steam users are still on 4 cores cpu 

do you really think devs will prefer losing the 55% of steam users because of some people using 8 cores cpu ?

Meh, i respect this opinion, 4th gen intels can still game decent for budget systems, but using more cores allows for a lot more utilization of CPU resources then just limiting it to clock-speed, which has hit a brick wall since about 2014 with the 4790k(overclocked often to 4.8-4.9).  You already see huge problems trying to run recent DX12 with 4 core systems, sadly this isn't going to change as its more efficient to optimize the code to utilize more cores as increases in clockspeed has hit a wall, and likely 4-5ghz is as fast as most CPUs will ever go in the next decade, if not the ultimate limit. Instead IPC improvements and extra cores being the only clear way forward as we keep shrinking node size. 

If improvements in clockspeeds wouldn't of hit a wall years and years ago then maybe there would be a argument for us all using 2 core, 4 thread 10ghz CPUs for gaming, and devs to develop the same way they have up until the last few years, but that just isn't the case.

Finally, as sad as it is, many game devs usually go for glamour over better optimization, next gen graphics, physics, etc making their games harder and harder to run as it gets them more interest and thus people are willing to spend 60$ for a new title, even if they can bearly run it.  I do wish this attitude would change a bit, atleast with optimization being more something people judge a game on, but even if that was the case it would still lean towards games being developed for more cores as thats where all the hardware improvements are going. 

[DarkSmith2]

upgrade to what? There isnt really a CPU out that is much faster than the 8700k at 5GHz for gaming, you're fine.

AMD still behind in clocks, Intel still behind in IPC. Infact in 99,9% of games u wont even have more than a 1% difference in FPS to a 9900ks.

Would be a complete waste of money.

[Ebony Falcon]

3 hours ago, Natasha22 said:

what Minimum soon ? 55 % of steam users are still on 4 cores cpu 

do you really think devs will prefer losing the 55% of steam users because of some people using 8 cores cpu ?

I was thinking because consoles are going to be 16 thread zen 2 cpus we would see that being the minimum as console is basically the bare minimum anyone would want to game at 

[Midnitewolf]

I would say the 8700k paired with a RTX 2080 is still a very good machine and I wouldn't even remotely consider an upgrade unless there was something very specific that you wanted to do that you couldn't actually do on your current set up.

 

As to core count and gaming, I absolutely believe that as we move forward, core count is going to become as much or more important than raw clock speed at some point but my guess is that games will just end up scaling with core count rather than require a specific minimum amount of cores to run. 

[MadAnt250]

On 12/20/2019 at 7:41 AM, Ebony Falcon said:

I was thinking because consoles are going to be 16 thread zen 2 cpus we would see that being the minimum as console is basically the bare minimum anyone would want to game at 

 

On 12/20/2019 at 2:58 AM, Ebony Falcon said:

I mostly game but I feel like 8 cores is gonna he a minimum soon 

NO,

 

Ahem, in a sad and observant tone, read slow for effect:

You have quite a powerful combo there, if you feel like your setup will be below the minimum and you must upgrade, then, a lot of us gamers are at the peasant level with our 4 core and 4 thread CPUs and are not worthy of games like Minecraft or Roller Coaster Tycoon and can only enjoy games like Solitaire and Minesweeper, GASP! Oh No, if 4 core gamers are at the peasant level, then the 2 core users are in big trouble and their potatoes are doomed.

[Ebony Falcon]

11 hours ago, Natasha22 said:

so game devs will prefer losing 55% of steam users just because new consoles are going to be 16 thread ?

No they will Not they will take both and keep the 4 cores gaming support .

they Care about money they don't care if new consoles are going to be 16 or 32 threads .

I think you underestimate console sales be steam sales because those guys shit on us in numbers