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Hey guys i want your opinions on this dilemma I have! I am building a PC like next week but haven't decided on a CPU yet! I am definitely going Ryzen but I don't know which one! I was looking at the Ryzen 5 2600 but because I won't be able to utilize my PC as much after summer I was thinking of going with the cheaper Ryzen 3 2200g which goes for 75 euro here on Greece! I am planning on buying a GPU though! What do you think? Tell me better cheap options if you have!

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15 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

Hey guys i want your opinions on this dilemma I have! I am building a PC like next week but haven't decided on a CPU yet! I am definitely going Ryzen but I don't know which one! I was looking at the Ryzen 5 2600 but because I won't be able to utilize my PC as much after summer I was thinking of going with the cheaper Ryzen 3 2200g which goes for 75 euro here on Greece! I am planning on buying a GPU though! What do you think? Tell me better cheap options if you have!

How much is the 2600 in Greece?
And what GPU are you planning on using, something like a 1050 Ti won't see that much of a difference in games but faster GPUs might.

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12 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

How much is the 2600 in Greece?
And what GPU are you planning on using, something like a 1050 Ti won't see that much of a difference in games but faster GPUs might.

The 2600 cost 120 here and yeah I was thinking of buying a 1050 Ti

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59 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

How much is the 2600 in Greece?
And what GPU are you planning on using, something like a 1050 Ti won't see that much of a difference in games but faster GPUs might.

Also, my thought was to get the 2200g or something around that price and then upgrade after I finish school considering that I'll have a lot more time!

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15 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

Also, my thought was to get the 2200g or something around that price and then upgrade after I finish school considering that I'll have a lot more time!

Yeah, most games won't see that much of an increase with the 2600 compared to the 2200g, maybe 10-15 FPS at most and for a little over half the price I think that's a better deal. Gap should be even less if you overclock the 2200g a bit.

why no dark mode?
Current:

Watercooled Eluktronics THICC-17 (Clevo X170SM-G):
CPU: i9-10900k @ 4.9GHz all core
GPU: RTX 2080 Super (Max P 200W)
RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) @ 3200MTs

Storage: 512GB HP EX NVMe SSD, 2TB Silicon Power NVMe SSD
Displays: Asus ROG XG-17 1080p@240Hz (G-Sync), IPS 1080p@240Hz (G-Sync), Gigabyte M32U 4k@144Hz (G-Sync), External Laptop panel (LTN173HT02) 1080p@120Hz

Asus ROG Flow Z13 (GZ301ZE) W/ Increased Power Limit:
CPU: i9-12900H @ Up to 5.0GHz all core
- dGPU: RTX 3050 Ti 4GB

- eGPU: RTX 3080 (mobile) XGm 16GB
RAM: 16GB (8x2GB) @ 5200MTs

Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD, 1TB MicroSD
Display: 1200p@120Hz

Asus Zenbook Duo (UX481FLY):

CPU: i7-10510U @ Up to 4.3 GHz all core
- GPU: MX 250
RAM: 16GB (8x2GB) @ 2133MTs

Storage: 128GB SATA M.2 (NVMe no worky)
Display: Main 1080p@60Hz + Screnpad Plus 1920x515@60Hz

Custom Game Server:

CPUs: Ryzen 7 7700X @ 5.1GHz all core

RAM: 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 @ whatever it'll boot at xD (I think it's 3600MTs)

Storage: 2x 1TB WD Blue NVMe SSD in RAID 1, 4x 10TB HGST Enterprise HDD in RAID Z1

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43 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

Yeah, most games won't see that much of an increase with the 2600 compared to the 2200g, maybe 10-15 FPS at most and for a little over half the price I think that's a better deal. Gap should be even less if you overclock the 2200g a bit.

Ok thank you very much for answering! You actually helped a lot because I'm not good with decisions!

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1 hour ago, GeorgeT123 said:

Ok thank you very much for answering! You actually helped a lot because I'm not good with decisions!

If you're using a dedicated GPU anyways, have you considered a Ryzen 5 1400 or 1600...they are dirt cheap now and offer 4c/8t, 6c/12t compared to only 4c/4t with the 2200g. I believe they can also be overclocked.

 

The 2200g is an excellent budget CPU though, especially for light gaming with the igpu.

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3 hours ago, steelo said:

If you're using a dedicated GPU anyways, have you considered a Ryzen 5 1400 or 1600...they are dirt cheap now and offer 4c/8t, 6c/12t compared to only 4c/4t with the 2200g. I believe they can also be overclocked.

 

The 2200g is an excellent budget CPU though, especially for light gaming with the igpu.

Thanks for the reply! I'll consider the 1400 ,which goes for just 10 more euro, depending on availability though!

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If you're using a dGPU, skip any G variants.

 

If you are buying a gpu, skip the 1050ti and just buy an RX 570 for or a 1650 ti, assuming they are reasonably priced.

 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 11:10 PM, Plutosaurus said:

If you're using a dGPU, skip any G variants.

 

If you are buying a gpu, skip the 1050ti and just buy an RX 570 for or a 1650 ti, assuming they are reasonably priced.

 

 

The RX 570 costs 25 euro more here than the 1650. should I spend that 25 euro more for the RX 570 or should I go with the 1650?

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13 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

The RX 570 costs 25 euro more here than the 1650. should I spend that 25 euro more for the RX 570 or should I go with the 1650?

Can't really say for your market.

 

How much is a 1650 super

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 3:09 PM, GeorgeT123 said:

was thinking of buying a 1050 Ti

Do not buy that. rx 570 4gb is at same price and 20% better adn some titles 50% better

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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2 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

Can't really say for your market.

 

How much is a 1650 supe

I can get the super for around 160

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Just now, GeorgeT123 said:

I can get the super for around 160

rx 570 4gb would be your best pet. Its perfomance is close to 1060 6gb

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Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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9 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

rx 570 4gb would be your best pet. Its perfomance is close to 1060 6gb

What about the Asus Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG Strix Gaming OC? I can get it for around 160

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Just now, GeorgeT123 said:

What about the Asus Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG Strix Gaming OC? I can get it for around 160

Is the strix model cheaper than others. If it is that is a good deal. The strix version har cool features. RGB, zero fan mode, one of the best accoustics and cooling

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Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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3 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

What about the Asus Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG Strix Gaming OC? I can get it for around 160

If both 1650 Super and RX 570 cost the same, get the 1650 Super, it is bit faster than RX 570.
But if you can find 8GB RX 580 for around 160, then that one is to go for. RX 570 is a good buy in 120-130 range.

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1 hour ago, SavageNeo said:

Is the strix model cheaper than others. If it is that is a good deal. The strix version har cool features. RGB, zero fan mode, one of the best accoustics and cooling

Prices I can get each GPU:

RX570 4GB: 160 and 8GB: 160

RX580 4GB: 169 and 8GB: 185

GTX 1650 Super: 168

Which one do you think is more worth? (The prices are in euros)

 

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46 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

Prices I can get each GPU:

RX570 4GB: 160 and 8GB: 160

RX580 4GB: 169 and 8GB: 185

GTX 1650 Super: 168

Which one do you think is more worth? (The prices are in euros)

 

Also because I want as cheap and as good as possible for now do you recommend the Ryzen 3 1200 to go with one of those cards?

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17 minutes ago, GeorgeT123 said:

Also because I want as cheap and as good as possible for now do you recommend the Ryzen 3 1200 to go with one of those cards?

1650 super + ryzen 3 1200 / ryzen 5 1600

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Just now, boggy77 said:

1650 super + ryzen 3 1200 / ryzen 5 1600

the amd rx 5500xt just launched, at the same price as 1650 super, but it's faster. keep an eye out for that as well

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5 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

the amd rx 5500xt just launched, at the same price as 1650 super, but it's faster. keep an eye out for that as well

I'll look out for it but I don't see it being released here in Greece in the following weeks but I'll see! Thanks for responding

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13 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

the amd rx 5500xt just launched, at the same price as 1650 super, but it's faster.

Its not faster. What a shame. Look for reviews on youtube, like hardware unboxed. 5500 XT is on 580 8gb level of performance but its little more expensive.

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Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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