Ryzen or Intel

[StephenHolts]

Hi Everyone.

 

Was hoping to hear some comments as to what CPU i should buy for purely Gaming.

 

I currently have a Ryzen 5 2600 paired with a 1080ti and 3200Mhz Memory and asrock X470 Gaming K4 Motherboard,

 

I was either looking at Getting a Ryzen 7 3700x or completely changing to intel i7-9700K.

 

The problem is cost. I can tecdhnically afford to do either one but i dont want to spend more money and i wont really see the worth of the more expensive one as with intel i will need new Motherboard aswell.

 

The Ryzen 7 i can get for $400

The Intel i7-9700K for $460, Plus $220 for Motherboard - Total $680.

 

Any assistance with what would be a better option. I have looks at some videos but some videos i dont seem to trust as one videos shows theres a big difference, but another will show not so much.

 

Any help will be much Appreciated.

[St. Nick]

Well on an x470 board for gaming, the cheaper upgrade that would net you more performance would be an R5 3600 as the 3700x doesn't offer that much more performance for gaming then the 3600. or taking advantage of the fact that the 2700x is a decent upgrade for you to at a lower price right now with both those options being under 200 but... I'm not really convinced a 2600 would bottleneck that 1080ti so much that upgrading your cpu would get you tangible benefits either way.

[DoctorNick]

Just get the 3700X. Difference in gaming will be minimal, even less if you run 1440p. Also where do you live?

[5x5]

The 3700C is the clear choice. Paying over 50% more for ab overall slower, hotter, more power hungry and unsecure CPU is absurd. Not to mention the i7 is on a dead platform and the X470 board will support Ryzen 4000 next year since it's still AM4

[Dipypang]

I’m sure lots of people will suggest going for Ryzen

[5x5]

As for gaming performance, the 9700K is barely 5% faster but overall 30% slower since it lacks SMT

[Metallus97]

12 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

As for gaming performance, the 9700K is barely 5% faster but overall 30% slower since it lacks SMT

This!

therefore go for Ryzen. Ryzen will benefit you MUCH more in the long run as games and other apps start to use more and more cores. Also Ryzen uses less power and is less expensive

[flashiling]

what kind og gaming are you looking to do? and how long do you need it to last?

[Metallus97]

Let me state this again 

did not push enough how dum getting 9700 would be in your situation. You already got the AM4 mobo and 9700 will give you like <5% improvements in SOME games and even your Ryzen you have today ist faster in every other app by a huge chunk and more future prove. Get 3700x and be happy with it  

 

switiching to blue makes 0 sense in your situation 

[Mister Woof]

What's wrong with what you currently have?

 

What resolution are you playing at?

[Brent744]

I was in this same debate a while ago when I had an R5 2600. I personally went with the 2700X because it was super cost effective at the time. Changing platforms altogether just seems like a huge waste of funds. So my recommendation is to stick with an AM4 chip.

[Mick Naughty]

9900k or the best amd you can afford. 

 

[StephenHolts]

Thanks to everyone for there comments. From what am gathering, stick with Ryzen for the most bang for my buck. Looks like im sticking with team red. Thanks everyone for you input. Helped me alot. 

[StephenHolts]

Im seeing some people saying go Ryzen 3600, others 3700x. 

 

At the moment im gaming at 1080p, and a buddy of mine has a 3600 and he gets and average of about 10 to 15 fps higher in games running on same setup other than cpu. If the 3700x is not gona boost performance then i would go 3600.

[Mister Woof]

Just now, StephenHolts said:

Im seeing some people saying go Ryzen 3600, others 3700x. 

 

At the moment im gaming at 1080p, and a buddy of mine has a 3600 and he gets and average of about 10 to 15 fps higher in games running on same setup other than cpu. If the 3700x is not gona boost performance then i would go 3600.

Are you aiming for super high refresh 1080p?

 

What's your display refresh?

[Metallus97]

3 hours ago, StephenHolts said:

Im seeing some people saying go Ryzen 3600, others 3700x. 

 

At the moment im gaming at 1080p, and a buddy of mine has a 3600 and he gets and average of about 10 to 15 fps higher in games running on same setup other than cpu. If the 3700x is not gona boost performance then i would go 3600.

3700x OC = 3800x OC
If you want to OC getting a 3800x is lost money. Almost every 3700x can clock as high as a 3800x and thats super easy to dial in.

 

3600 is a decent gaming CPU and should be able to be OCed to the speeds of the 3700 and 3800. However it has 2 less cores. Most games dont use them jet but some do and manny will. Therefore: 3700x and OC it  

[Otto_iii]

You already have a motherboard good enough for 3700x or better, if you had a decent Z390 and a 9400f or something i'd tell you to go for 9700k, but your board will likely work great for Ryzen 4000 series when it comes out next year, and 3700x will be a big uplift now.  With a 1080ti you aren't going to see much difference between them, with a 2080ti its like 5-10% depending on game, you can likely get same performance given your GPU limited in this situation so long as you run good ram with Ryzen 3000, DDR4 3600 speed, CL16 or better. 

look up "F4-3600C16D-16GVKC", its like 80$ no frills DDR4 that recently came out that is optimized very well to get most out of Ryzen 3000 without spending a fortune.  NewEgg still has it in stock and they ship internationally iirc if you aren't in NA.  

All this said if you just bought a 200$ 3600 that will likely be about same performance uplift, usually 3700x is about 5% faster then 3600 so no big difference.  Likewise you could ask your friend what ram hes running, if hes not on 3600 then difference will be greater then what you have observed.  3700x will still work better in some CPU heavy titles (newer DX12 stuff), if you stream, or if you ever multi-task while gaming (game on one screen, watch youtube on another etc)
 

1 hour ago, Metallus97 said:

3700x OC = 3800x OC
If you want to OC getting a 3800x is lost money. Almost every 3700x can clock as high as a 3800x and thats super easy to dial in.

i disagree about them being the same. 

I'd agree its not worth the money, with the exception of when it was sold for 330$ around Black Friday, but 3800x are the only Ryzen 3000 besides maybe the 3950x i've seen pulling stable 4.4+ghz all core overclocks at reasonable (lower) voltages repeatedly by multiple people with good air or water cooling.  Not that all will do it but its a way more frequent occurrence, most others can only all-core to 4.15-4.3Ghz at similar voltages around 1.325.  I believe one still holds the LN2 record for Ryzen 3000 at 5.9ghz, its clearly binned different, just isn't really worth it for $70+ more.  If it goes on sale again anytime soon so that its only 10ish% more expensive then 3700x i'd actually consider recommending them.