Price-performance for New Ryzen processors?

[x Princess Leliana x]

planning a build but have been out the loop for a while.

 

Dunno whether I wanna get a 3600 or like an 1800x or a 2800 or whatever.

 

Does anyone have a few links to some graphs or articles? I'd really appreciate it!

[Midnitewolf]

Lot of this depends on your budget.

 

Best Budget Processor right now is either a Ryzen 3600 if you want the latest generation or if you can still find some stock, there have been some great deals on the Ryzen 2700/2700x which in general offers pretty comparable performance to the Ryzen 3600.  There are a few benefits/disadvantages to this and I would search 2700x vs 3600 to read some articles about it before deciding.

 

On the higher end, if they aren't out of stock, they are selling Ryzen 3800x for the same price as a Ryzen 3700x on Newegg which is a pretty great deal.  They are only a small improvement for gaming over the 3600 but you get a bit of future proofing in the from of having more cores if that becomes a thing, plus you will get better performance if your streaming, video editing, etc 

 

I don't know if I would go with a 3900x or 3950x unless you needed it for productivity.

[x Princess Leliana x]

Just now, Midnitewolf said:

Lot of this depends on your budget.

 

Best Budget Processor right now is either a Ryzen 3600 if you want the latest generation or if you can still find some stock, there have been some great deals on the Ryzen 2700/2700x which in general offers pretty comparable performance to the Ryzen 3600.  There are a few benefits/disadvantages to this and I would search 2700x vs 3600 to read some articles about it before deciding.

 

On the higher end, if they aren't out of stock, they are selling Ryzen 3800x for the same price as a Ryzen 3700x on Newegg which is a pretty great deal.  They are only a small improvement for gaming over the 3600 but you get a bit of future proofing in the from of having more cores if that becomes a thing, plus you will get better performance if your streaming, video editing, etc 

 

I don't know if I would go with a 3900x or 3950x unless you needed it for productivity.

Yeah I've been told 3600 is what I want for my budget ($1000~) but I'd happily spend a bit more if the performance is worth it.

 

I am a streamer, and the new build is mostly for that. So if it's worth spending more to get a better streaming experience I will. 

[Bombastinator]

I’m not sure there will be a useful graph.

Any graph would show performance in only one program.  This is why reviewers test a bunch of programs and rate them separately.

 

Performance is dependent on software.  There is a shift between MHz and thread spaces.  A 3600 will have a higher MHz than an 1800x but fewer thread spaces.  If the software need a the thread space it will run faster.  If it doesn’t it will run slower.  MHz can make up for less thread space but only so much.  3600 has 12 thread spaces, 1800x has 16.  Its slower though.

[x Princess Leliana x]

6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I’m not sure there will be a useful graph.

Any graph would show performance in only one program.  This is why reviewers test a bunch of programs and rate them separately.

 

Performance is dependent on software.  There is a shift between MHz and thread spaces.  A 3600 will have a higher MHz than an 1800x but fewer thread spaces.  If the software need a the thread space it will run faster.  If it doesn’t it will run slower.  MHz can make up for less thread space but only so much.  3600 has 12 thread spaces, 1800x has 16.  Its slower though.

Software is just games and streamlabs really. That's all I do aha

[SupaKomputa]

3600 is the best price to performance, but the discounted 2700/x maybe the next inline.

If you game alot definitely go for 3600.

[x Princess Leliana x]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

3600 is the best price to performance, but the discounted 2700/x maybe the next inline.

If you game alot definitely go for 3600.

Even if i stream as well?

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, x Princess Leliana x said:

Even if i stream as well?

If you encode on the CPU, the 3700X will be a better value. 

[x Princess Leliana x]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

If you encode on the CPU, the 3700X will be a better value. 

Fair, and if I use gpu encoding just get the 3600 and spend the extra money ona better gpu?

[Zando_]

Just now, x Princess Leliana x said:

Fair, and if I use gpu encoding just get the 3600 and spend the extra money ona better gpu?

Yeah, preferably one from the RTX 2000 series for the NVENC encoder. The 1660 Ti also has the improved encoder though, and I think the 1660 Super might as well. Every 2000 card from the 2060 to the 2080 Ti has it. 

[x Princess Leliana x]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, preferably one from the RTX 2000 series for the NVENC encoder. The 1660 Ti also has the improved encoder though, and I think the 1660 Super might as well. Every 2000 card from the 2060 to the 2080 Ti has it. 

Was planning on spending half my budget on a 2070 super to be honest

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, x Princess Leliana x said:

Was planning on spending half my budget on a 2070 super to be honest

Those are excellent GPUs, some of the absolute best bang for the buck you can get right now. If you had planned to get one anyways, then just add the 3700X and pocket the change, no need to go to a better GPU unless you play a lot at 4K (2070 Super still handles 4K fine, just higher GPUs can run higher settings). 

[x Princess Leliana x]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Those are excellent GPUs, some of the absolute best bang for the buck you can get right now. If you had planned to get one anyways, then just add the 3700X and pocket the change, no need to go to a better GPU unless you play a lot at 4K (2070 Super still handles 4K fine, just higher GPUs can run higher settings). 

I plan on playing 1080p 60hz, and then upgrading to 1440p and/or 144hz. 

 

Problem is Idk if I can get a 3700x and a 2070super on budget, its like a one or the other deal

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, x Princess Leliana x said:

I plan on playing 1080p 60hz, and then upgrading to 1440p and/or 144hz. 

 

Problem is Idk if I can get a 3700x and a 2070super on budget, its like a one or the other deal

Then stick with the 3600, the better GPU will do more for you than the better CPU. The extra 2c/4t is just nice to have for multitasking. What parts list do you currently have? Got a PCPartPicker list? We may be able to trim some $ off somewhere else in order to fit both the 3700X and 2070 S in. 

[x Princess Leliana x]

30 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Then stick with the 3600, the better GPU will do more for you than the better CPU. The extra 2c/4t is just nice to have for multitasking. What parts list do you currently have? Got a PCPartPicker list? We may be able to trim some $ off somewhere else in order to fit both the 3700X and 2070 S in. 

Haven't got anything pc part picked yet, since im planning on getting a bunch of second hand stuff to free up budget for the gpu. 

[x Princess Leliana x]

I'm also still deciding the theme. I really, really, really want to go full white, which I can, I can get it in budget... But then Im spending more for less. I could go black with a white case and save a bit of money to upgrade my gpu.