CPU & GPU usage with FPS counter

[Keiran1983]

Hi all,

 

Anyone know which is a good and reliable cpu/gpu usage overlay that also shows the FPS counter?  Want to see if my rig is used as it should be.

 

thanks!

[ddennis002]

MSI Afterburner it has Rivatuner Statics Server built in you can customize what you want in your overlay.

[WereCat]

Either MSI Afterburner + Riva Tuner Statistics server or HWinfo + RTSS

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

Either MSI Afterburner + Riva Tuner Statistics server or HWinfo + RTSS

Isn't that really all kinds of incorrect for Ryzen CPUs?   Otherwise I agree it's great for monitoring real time or otherwise.  

[WereCat]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Isn't that really all kinds of incorrect for Ryzen CPUs?   Otherwise I agree it's great for monitoring real time or otherwise.  

It's not incorrect. HWinfo just doesen't show when the cores go to sleep like Ryzen Master does so HWinfo will just say that the core is for example at 4GHz when it actually it is sleeping since that was its last state. Otherwise its more accurate than Ryzen Master.

 

If you mean MSI Afterburner then I have no idea.

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

It's not incorrect. HWinfo just doesen't show when the cores go to sleep like Ryzen Master does so HWinfo will just say that the core is for example at 4GHz when it actually it is sleeping since that was its last state. Otherwise its more accurate than Ryzen Master.

Hmm  ... I'm not sure... I honestly use it but I just take it as approximates and Afterburner doesn't make any sense when reading frequencies because it usually shows the exact same frequencies on all cores, which to my understanding isn't how the cores really work,  I suppose it's a similar issue that HWmonitor has. 

 

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

It's not incorrect. HWinfo just doesen't show when the cores go to sleep

ie it *is* incorrect

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, Mark Kaine said:

Hmm  ... I'm not sure... I honestly use it but I just take it as approximates and Afterburner doesn't make any sense when reading frequencies because it usually shows the exact same frequencies on all cores, which to my understanding isn't how the cores really work,  I suppose it's a similar issue that HWmonitor has. 

 

ie it *is* incorrect

Honestly, I had more issues with Ryzen Master than with HWinfo.

 

For example Ryzen Master has a bug where it shows that my SoC voltage is at 1.36V instead of 1.08V when I use default settings and it only shows the correct voltage if I manualy set it in the BIOS.

It also had issue simmilar to this one when displaying VDDG Voltage.

 

Regarding clocks, when I have a multiplier of exactly 100.00x since I have the Spread Spectrum set to DISABLED. The Ryzen master will still show clocks that are for example 4037MHz or 3931MHz when actually the clocks can move only in 25MHz increments so there is no way that they can end by a different number than 0 or 5 as the BCLK is exactly 100.00x.

 

If I disable the Spread Spectrum then yes, the BCLK is not perfectly locked to 100.00x and it can change the clocks by a tiny bit where there is some variety.

 

HWinfo does not have this issue.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Honestly, I had more issues with Ryzen Master than with HWinfo.

 

For example Ryzen Master has a bug where it shows that my SoC voltage is at 1.36V instead of 1.08V when I use default settings and it only shows the correct voltage if I manualy set it in the BIOS.

It also had issue simmilar to this one when displaying VDDG Voltage.

 

Regarding clocks, when I have a multiplier of exactly 100.00x since I have the Spread Spectrum set to DISABLED. The Ryzen master will still show clocks that are for example 4037MHz or 3931MHz when actually the clocks can move only in 25MHz increments so there is no way that they can end by a different number than 0 or 5 as the BCLK is exactly 100.00x.

 

If I disable the Spread Spectrum then yes, the BCLK is not perfectly locked to 100.00x and it can change the clocks by a tiny bit where there is some variety.

 

HWinfo does not have this issue.

Well I'm not using RM so I can't really compare,  I just know these other programs have issues too like not showing sleeping cores... 

 

But honestly now that I think about it maybe Afterburner is actually correct about frequencies,  because I remember when I played a game that doesn't really support multi core architecture it didn't show the same frequencies on all cores,  it's just I usually only play one game and that supports multi threading and while usage varies from core to core the frequencies are always the same on all cores,  between 3800 and 4000, can this really be how it works?  I have no OC applied,  all stock settings... 

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Well I'm not using RM so I can't really compare,  I just know these other programs have issues too like not showing sleeping cores... 

 

But honestly now that I think about it maybe Afterburner is actually correct about frequencies,  because I remember when I played a game that doesn't really support multi core architecture it didn't show the same frequencies on all cores,  it's just I usually only play one game and that supports multi threading and while usage varies from core to core the frequencies are always the same on all cores,  between 3800 and 4000, can this really be how it works?  I have no OC applied,  all stock settings... 

The SW cant show sleeping cores, that is not an issue but just a lack of feature.

 

The CPU tends to boost higher than the base clocks quite often based on temperature and power available so its normal to see around 4GHz clocks on all cores.

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

The CPU tends to boost higher than the base clocks quite often based on temperature and power available so its normal to see around 4GHz clocks on all cores.

On all cores at the same time though? 

 

Oh and I forgot to say... while Afterburner never shows frequencies above 4000MHz,  HWmonitor does - in the same time frame,  up to 4200MHz, so something doesn't add up to me? 

 

You know,  who should I trust in this situation...

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

On all cores at the same time though? 

 

Oh and I forgot to say... while Afterburner never shows frequencies above 4000MHz,  HWmonitor does - in the same time frame,  up to 4200MHz, so something doesn't add up to me? 

 

You know,  who should I trust in this situation...

Neither.

Use HWinfo instead.

 

HWmonitor is quite bad, I had many issues with it even when I used i7 4770k,that SW just showed inconsisten information all the time.

 

I haven't used MSI Afterburner with Ryzen yet so I can speak if its good or not, it used to be OK when I used it on an Intel platform.

[Mark Kaine]

18 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Neither.

Use HWinfo instead.

Figures.  Well I do have that downloaded but it's not simple to use for me and idk if it has an in-game overlay, but I'll give it another try - also to compare with what Afterburner reports. 

[xAcid9]

3 hours ago, Keiran1983 said:

Hi all,

 

Anyone know which is a good and reliable cpu/gpu usage overlay that also shows the FPS counter?  Want to see if my rig is used as it should be.

 

thanks!

MSI Afterburner or Windows 10 Gamebar is more than enough for those.

[Keiran1983]

Hi all!

 

Thanks!  I downloaded it.

 

On Total War: Three Kingdoms, looks like my CPU (at most 45-50% usage on all cores) is not able to keep my GPU (EVGA 1070 SC) at 99% usage.