Boot start every time PC has been unplugged. *HELP*

[Trumerik]

Hi guys! I just built a PC, and it seems to work like it should.

But it has a wierd behaviour. Every time after the psu has been unplugged/turned off next start will do the "first boot"-cycle, where it starts, turns off and then starts again and works normal. If I just shutdown the pc without turning off the power supply and start it, it works like normal. So it is something that causes this when there is no power to the system, any ideas? 

 

Should I be worried? The PC seems to work fine!

 

Thanks, Erik.

[Trumerik]

Also 2: When I do restart from Windows 10 it takes quite a long time to restart compared to what I am used to on other computers. Anyone know something about this?

[191x7]

Turn off hibernation and then recheck. You're using the Windows 10 fast boot / hybrid sleep | whatever they call it now | that doesn't really shutdown the system.

[Trumerik]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Turn off hibernation and then recheck. You're using the Windows 10 fast boot / hybrid sleep | whatever they call it now | that doesn't really shutdown the system.

Hi, for which problem? PSU Unpluggg startup or Restarsting in win 10.

And how do I do that?

 

Thanks for quick answer

[191x7]

10 minutes ago, Trumerik said:

Hi, for which problem? PSU Unpluggg startup or Restarsting in win 10.

And how do I do that?

 

Thanks for quick answer

Those are not two problems. You have the option to resume the previous state after a power failure turned on in the bios.

Windows does not shutdown your system, it enters a low power state instead. When you unplug, it's a loss of power, and when you replug it turns on because it wasn't off.

As I've said, you have to turn hibernation off in order for each shutdown to be a true shutdown.

If you don't believe me - open task manager and check how long ago the system was turned off.

Restart the system to reset the counter, "turn off" the system, "turn on" after a few hours and check how long the system is up - you won't see 0 hours unless it's a proper shutdown.

[Trumerik]

7 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Those are not two problems. You have the option to resume the previous state after a power failure turned on in the bios.

Windows does not shutdown your system, it enters a low power state instead. When you unplug, it's a loss of power, and when you replug it turns on because it wasn't off.

As I've said, you have to turn hibernation off in order for each shutdown to be a true shutdown.

If you don't believe me - open task manager and check how long ago the system was turned off.

Restart the system to reset the counter, "turn off" the system, "turn on" after a few hours and check how long the system is up - you won't see 0 hours unless it's a proper shutdown.

Oh ok, so it is causing both of these problems. I believe you, I will search youtube how to turn it off! thanks

[Mark Kaine]

8 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Those are not two problems. You have the option to resume the previous state after a power failure turned on in the bios.

Windows does not shutdown your system, it enters a low power state instead. When you unplug, it's a loss of power, and when you replug it turns on because it wasn't off.

As I've said, you have to turn hibernation off in order for each shutdown to be a true shutdown.

If you don't believe me - open task manager and check how long ago the system was turned off.

Restart the system to reset the counter, "turn off" the system, "turn on" after a few hours and check how long the system is up - you won't see 0 hours unless it's a proper shutdown.

Err.  I have hibernation on and when I unplug my PC it does not boot into BIOS. 

 

It also doesn't go into hibernation of course because I chose "shut down" and not hibernation when shutting down my PC. 

 

 

I think you could be right about the BIOS setting for power loss though (doesn't really make sense,  never tried it but it could be)  and also since fast startup is enabled by default it should be taken into consideration to turn that off,  it's just another dumb windows feature that does the opposite of what the naming implies.

[Trumerik]

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Err.  I have hibernation on and when I unplug my PC it does not boot into BIOS. 

 

It also doesn't go into hibernation of course because I chose "shut down" and not hibernation when shutting down my PC. 

 

 

I think you could be right about the BIOS setting for power loss though (doesn't really make sense,  never tried it but it could be)  and also since fast startup is enabled by default it should be taken into consideration to turn that off,  it's just another dumb windows feature that does the opposite of what the naming implies.

Hi, it does not boot into bios but it does do the "first starg"-thing. Where it starts for a couple seconda then turn off and then turn on as normal again.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, Trumerik said:

Hi, it does not boot into bios but it does do the "first starg"-thing. Where it starts for a couple seconda then turna off and then turna on as normal again.

Yeah, I see I kinda interpreted that as going into BIOS as it probably would if you'd press the corresponding button -  but I'm not sure what's causing this behavior to be honest,  it could very well be one of those settings @191x7 mentioned.  

I was just pointing out hibernation setting alone does not cause this behavior on my PC as I unplug it frequently and this specific issue never happened to me. 

[Trumerik]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Yeah, I see I kinda interpreted that as going into BIOS as it probably would if you'd press the corresponding button -  but I'm not sure what's causing this behavior to be honest,  it could very well be one of those settings @191x7 mentioned.  

I was just pointing out hibernation setting alone does not cause this behavior on my PC as I unplug it frequently and this specific issue never happened to me. 

Ok thanks

[Trumerik]

*UPDATE*

 

I shut off Hibernation through this guide: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/support-software/How-to-disable-Sleep-Mode-or-Hibernation-793/

 

Although now when I selected to turn off or restart both take a larger amount of time instead. Why?!

 

And it still has the same problem with doing the first startup when psu has been unplugged...

[Trumerik]

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

*snip*

Thank you very much. English isn't my first language but I am doing my best. Hopefully I can get a fix.

Edited November 24, 2019 by wkdpaul

[191x7]

https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/262325/why-is-windows-hibernating-instead-of-fully-shutting-down/

 

https://lifehacker.com/shutting-down-windows-10-doesnt-actually-shut-down-wind-1825532376

 

As you can see, the default "shutdown" isn't actually shut down.

 

https://www.geeksinphoenix.com/blog/post/2011/07/28/Disable-Windows-hibernation-and-free-up-disk-space.aspx

 

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-or-disable-hibernate-in-windows-10/

 

And that's how you turn hibernation off.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/368891/desktop-bios-after-power-failure-setting-behavior

[Trumerik]

On 11/24/2019 at 3:27 PM, 191x7 said:

https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/262325/why-is-windows-hibernating-instead-of-fully-shutting-down/

 

https://lifehacker.com/shutting-down-windows-10-doesnt-actually-shut-down-wind-1825532376

 

As you can see, the default "shutdown" isn't actually shut down.

 

https://www.geeksinphoenix.com/blog/post/2011/07/28/Disable-Windows-hibernation-and-free-up-disk-space.aspx

 

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-or-disable-hibernate-in-windows-10/

 

And that's how you turn hibernation off.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/368891/desktop-bios-after-power-failure-setting-behavior

Will try all this and get back.

[Trumerik]

On 11/24/2019 at 3:27 PM, 191x7 said:

 

Hey, I've now turned Hibernation off.

And I also selected Disable for Fast Boot in the Bios.

 

Same problem still exists...

[191x7]

8 minutes ago, Trumerik said:

Hey, I've now turned Hibernation off.

And I also selected Disable for Fast Boot in the Bios.

 

Same problem still exists...

And the bios option to resume the previous state on power loss, have you turned that off?

[Trumerik]

22 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

And the bios option to resume the previous state on power loss, have you turned that off?

I am sorry for not knowing these things. I really appreaciate your help. Do you know where I can navigate to these settings?

[Trumerik]

26 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

And the bios option to resume the previous state on power loss, have you turned that off?

I found it! Restore AC Power loss.

It is set to Power Off

[191x7]

A system turns on when the green wire (5V) and one of the ground wires (black) of the PSU ATX 24-piun connector make electric contact.

 

Are you sure it's not a faulty Power button on the case?

[Husky]

This behavior is normal for most motherboards, especially ASUS ones. Mine does the same thing if I switch the power supply off. It starts for a couple of seconds then turns off and then on again on it's own. Nothing to be worried about - unfortunately I don't think you can do anything to prevent it if it bothers you except for leaving the power supply on which is fine to do.

 

A UEFI BIOS update might help or at least reduce the time it takes to cycle so you can try that but as I said, my board does the exact same thing so I doubt it would help.

[Trumerik]

2 hours ago, 191x7 said:

A system turns on when the green wire (5V) and one of the ground wires (black) of the PSU ATX 24-piun connector make electric contact.

 

Are you sure it's not a faulty Power button on the case?

It doesn't turn on by itself or anything. It's probably as Husky says, some problems with asus board then.

[Trumerik]

1 hour ago, Husky said:

This behavior is normal for most motherboards, especially ASUS ones. Mine does the same thing if I switch the power supply off. It starts for a couple of seconds then turns off and then on again on it's own. Nothing to be worried about - unfortunately I don't think you can do anything to prevent it if it bothers you except for leaving the power supply on which is fine to do.

 

A UEFI BIOS update might help or at least reduce the time it takes to cycle so you can try that but as I said, my board does the exact same thing so I doubt it would help.

Hi, ok. Finally, someone who experienced the same problem. I indeed have an Asus board.

I am just worried it would cause any harm to the pc.

Thanks for your information! If it's nothing harming I don't think its worth getting a RMA just for that.

 

Thanks.