RTX Cards that support DVI?

[BradL1234]

Hi,

 

I was planning on purchasing the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER and after looking at it's specs, I realised it only supports Display Ports and HDMI. My problem is my BenQ ZOWIE XL2411 monitor doesn't have a Display Port slot. So is there any RTX cards that support DVI? Because apparently the DVI to Display port adapters are too expensive and most of them don't even offer 144hz.

 

Thanks

 

 

[Fasauceome]

DVI is considered too legacy for support on high end cards

[Olaf6541]

Why not use HDMI? They both have HDMI ports...

[BradL1234]

8 minutes ago, Olaf6541 said:

Why not use HDMI? They both have HDMI ports...

The XL2411 through HDMI is limited to 60hz and won't go past it. 

[BradL1234]

9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

DVI is considered too legacy for support on high end cards

So it seems my only option is to by a new monitor. Pretty the XL2411P supports the Display Port and it is currently under £200. If I can sell my current monitor (Which I paid £330 for ) I may just put towards a new one.

[Olaf6541]

3 minutes ago, BradL1234 said:

The XL2411 through HDMI is limited to 60hz and won't go past it. 

Well that's a dumb design...

Though I think a DP to Dual Link DVI adapter is still cheaper than a new monitor.

[SavageNeo]

2 minutes ago, BradL1234 said:

So it seems my only option is to by a new monitor. Pretty the XL2411P supports the Display Port and it is currently under £200. If I can sell my current monitor (Which I paid £330 for ) I may just put towards a new one.

for the money of new monitor, get displayport to dvi connector

[MarcoZ]

Check ZOTAC's lineup. My RTX2070 Mini has it but I don't know that they ever updated this SKU to SUPER.
EDIT: I'm sure there's a 2060S from ASUS and one from KFA2. Multiple 2070s, no Supers that I can spot.

[BradL1234]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

for the money of new monitor, get displayport to dvi connector

 

1 minute ago, Olaf6541 said:

Well that's a dumb design...

Though I think a DP to Dual Link DVI adapter is still cheaper than a new monitor.

I have been looking at them and many of the reviews (even for the expensive ones) have stated they are of bad quality and they don't even support 144hz. 

 

I mean if I could find one that I knew worked, then I would happily purchase one  Feel free to help out if you know of one!

[Olaf6541]

1 minute ago, BradL1234 said:

 

I have been looking at them and many of the reviews (even for the expensive ones) have stated they are of bad quality and they don't even support 144hz. 

 

I mean if I could find one that I knew worked, then I would happily purchase one  Feel free to help out if you know of one!

Ive had some issues with adapters myself, ended up selling my R9 280x because i just couldnt get 2 hdmi monitors to work with dp to hdmi adapters, so using adapters is always a bit of a gamble...

I would suggest trying one from a reputable store where you know returning it wont be an issue and returning it if it doesnt work at 144Hz.

[Mira Yurizaki]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 600007834 601321572

 

A cursory glance on Newegg shows that some RTX 2060 and 2070 cards have DVI.

[BradL1234]

23 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 600007834 601321572

 

A cursory glance on Newegg shows that some RTX 2060 and 2070 cards have DVI.

Was just watching some reviews and the EVGA RTX 2070 BLACK comes with an DVI port and it actually performs pretty well.

 

Also, according to a benchmark compare site, the MSI RTX 2070 SUPER is still better but only by an 11% factor. 

[Takahashi]

19 hours ago, BradL1234 said:

Hi,

 

I was planning on purchasing the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER and after looking at it's specs, I realised it only supports Display Ports and HDMI. My problem is my BenQ ZOWIE XL2411 monitor doesn't have a Display Port slot. So is there any RTX cards that support DVI? Because apparently the DVI to Display port adapters are too expensive and most of them don't even offer 144hz.

 

Thanks

 

 

I feel your pain and I am in exactly the same position.

 

I was looking to upgrade my EVGA 980Ti Classified to something newer and discovered exactly the same thing. I had a Benq XL2411T, on which I used DVI-DL to obtain 144Hz @ 1080p. With all cards moving away from DVI my options were limited. I ended up selling my Benq on Ebay and buying:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-24G2U-BK-Widescreen-Multimedia/dp/B07Y3RYLVH for £169.99 (gone up to £179.99 now).

 

I love it, it has Display Port, HDMI and VGA (handy for some of my legacy devices), it has a smaller bezel and is not as deep as my old Benq. One thing I would say is that the footprint of the stand is not as compact as the Benq, but as I am thinking of getting another a moving to a dual arm setup anyway I dont think that will be an issue.

 

As it turns out I am probably going to wait to see if AMD's Nivida Killer actually turns up and what Ampere brings, so I doubt I will change my GPU until the end of next year now. But I dont regret changing my screen now in preparation. 

[Mick Naughty]

I’ve had fancy dp to dvi since the second gen Kepler cards. Support 120hz, been hanging on to them ever since. 

No reason for me to waste money on newer monitors when they are secondary. 

 

I thought the fe cards still had dvi ports. Haven’t looked into that much though. 

[BTGbullseye]

21 hours ago, BradL1234 said:

Because apparently the DVI to Display port adapters are too expensive and most of them don't even offer 144hz.

Well there's your problem, you're doing it wrong... It's a $3 cable if you do HDMI to DVI, since HDMI fully supports DVI protocols by design.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16882422117?Item=N82E16882422117

 

I have used this cable already for a couple different monitors, and it has no issues.

[Takahashi]

45 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Well there's your problem, you're doing it wrong... It's a $3 cable if you do HDMI to DVI, since HDMI fully supports DVI protocols by design.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16882422117?Item=N82E16882422117

 

I have used this cable already for a couple different monitors, and it has no issues.

@144Hz ??

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, Takahashi said:

@144Hz ??

If the monitor supports 144Hz over DVI... Just read the product page at the link I provided, it says the specs right there.

[Takahashi]

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

If the monitor supports 144Hz over DVI... Just read the product page at the link I provided, it says the specs right there.

I looked at the specs and it only mentions bandwidth of 165MHz , which is single link and consequently only enough bandwidth for 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz .

 

http://monitorinsider.com/cable_bandwidth.html

 

Looking further through the questions and answers it also states single link.

[BTGbullseye]

17 hours ago, Takahashi said:

I looked at the specs and it only mentions bandwidth of 165MHz , which is single link and consequently only enough bandwidth for 1920 x 1200 @ 60Hz .

 

http://monitorinsider.com/cable_bandwidth.html

 

Looking further through the questions and answers it also states single link.

And yet I have personally gotten dual link connections on several monitors. It may or may not be able to in your specific case, but it really should. The specs on the page are the ones to which they tested it to guarantee that it will perform to. If nothing else, it'll get your monitor working temporarily for only $3.

[Takahashi]

On 11/16/2019 at 2:20 PM, BTGbullseye said:

...... but it really should. ......

But that is the point I am trying to make ... it really shouldnt.

 

The bandwidth of this cable is 165 Megahertz . This is not the same thing as 144 Hertz which is the refresh rate ...  A full HD screen has 2,073,600 Pixels ... (1920 x 1080) .... to update that 144 times a second (144 Hz) is 298,598,400 pixels per second (1920 x 1080 x 144) or 298.6 Megahertz. And that doesnt take in to account the blanking.

 

I would import one to test it , just out of sheer curiosity, but I sold my old DVI monitor for one with display port, so I cannot test it now anyway.

 

If you really managed to select 1080p @ 144Hz with that cable , then I am amazed and will yield to your incredible good fortune.

[BTGbullseye]

28 minutes ago, Takahashi said:

The bandwidth of this cable is 165 Megahertz .

And the rated bandwidth of a Cat5e cable is 100MHz, but it can still handle 1Gbps connections if the cable is good and the run is short. Same thing applies to this cable. There are no physical restrictors in the cable to prevent the connection from exceeding the rated specification, and there definitely are the physical connections to be able to have the connection at full speed.

28 minutes ago, Takahashi said:

If you really managed to select 1080p @ 144Hz with that cable , then I am amazed and will yield to your incredible good fortune.

On 2 different monitors as well. It's not uncommon for this to happen either.

[Takahashi]

21 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

And the rated bandwidth of a Cat5e cable is 100MHz, but it can still handle 1Gbps connections if the cable is good and the run is short. Same thing applies to this cable. There are no physical restrictors in the cable to prevent the connection from exceeding the rated specification, and there definitely are the physical connections to be able to have the connection at full speed.

On 2 different monitors as well. It's not uncommon for this to happen either.

Yeah , but 1000BaseT uses PAM-5 encoding to achieve that, and I know that similar techniques exist in video, but no-one else seems to have managed it with that cable.

 

I will take you at your word.