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Good Morning, as usual I find my self over thinking all this stuff.

This will be my 1st PC build and It will be used for typical Home/Office/school as well as light to moderate gaming - Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Fallen Order, Guild Wars 2.

 

 

1. Budget & Location  - $700 (+/-) USA

 

2. Aim - Home/Office/School - some photo editing (not video) - gaming ( see games above)

3. Monitors - 2 eventually but one for now.....

4. Peripherals - not needed / will use a free media install of Win 10

5. Why are you upgrading? Because 2010 Mac Mini.........

 

ETA: RGB is not a thing...case needs to be functional, glass sides and pretty colors are not required.....would rather function over fashion.

 

Thanks so much.

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18 minutes ago, McGangsta said:

Good Morning, as usual I find my self over thinking all this stuff.

This will be my 1st PC build and It will be used for typical Home/Office/school as well as light to moderate gaming - Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Fallen Order, Guild Wars 2.

 

 

1. Budget & Location  - $700 (+/-) USA

 

2. Aim - Home/Office/School - some photo editing (not video) - gaming ( see games above)

3. Monitors - 2 eventually but one for now.....

4. Peripherals - not needed / will use a free media install of Win 10

5. Why are you upgrading? Because 2010 Mac Mini.........

 

ETA: RGB is not a thing...case needs to be functional, glass sides and pretty colors are not required.....would rather function over fashion.

 

Thanks so much.

hard to do since you play CYberpunk 

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20 minutes ago, McGangsta said:

Good Morning, as usual I find my self over thinking all this stuff.

This will be my 1st PC build and It will be used for typical Home/Office/school as well as light to moderate gaming - Cyberpunk 2077, Jedi Fallen Order, Guild Wars 2.

 

 

1. Budget & Location  - $700 (+/-) USA

 

2. Aim - Home/Office/School - some photo editing (not video) - gaming ( see games above)

3. Monitors - 2 eventually but one for now.....

4. Peripherals - not needed / will use a free media install of Win 10

5. Why are you upgrading? Because 2010 Mac Mini.........

 

Thanks so much.

do you have the monitor already?

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.68 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.81 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $690.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 09:13 EST-0500

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 hour ago, Wolfycapt said:

hard to do since you play CYberpunk 

I knew this would be the sticking point, but figuredmaybe the 1660 super would work?

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1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

do you have the monitor already?

I have "a" moniter, but it will need to be upgraded along the way.

I have to sell this build in sections to the wife, lol,  need to get the PC built, then I can get the 2 monitors by enlisting the help ofmu daughter who is moinve into photo/graphic design in Highschool

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15 minutes ago, McGangsta said:

I have "a" moniter, but it will need to be upgraded along the way.

I have to sell this build in sections to the wife, lol,  need to get the PC built, then I can get the 2 monitors by enlisting the help ofmu daughter who is moinve into photo/graphic design in Highschool

If you don't need a monitor now, I'd go for this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bhzcq3

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.68 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($83.81 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($62.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($52.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($68.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $690.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Also, if I want to push the Ryzen to 3.8-4 GHz would I need a different cpu cooler?

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7 hours ago, McGangsta said:

May I ask why you are using a X470 vs a B450 MoBo?

It's slightly better than the MSI B450 boards while also costing less.

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5 hours ago, McGangsta said:

Also, if I want to push the Ryzen to 3.8-4 GHz would I need a different cpu cooler?

Yes. The stock cooler can't handle it. You'll probably need to get a Noctua or a decent AIO.

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:The MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Rosewill Capstone 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

 

Is this going to be an issue?

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12 minutes ago, McGangsta said:

 

Is this going to be an issue?

no.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.68 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.84 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $688.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-13 22:12 EST-0500

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3 hours ago, McGangsta said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($117.68 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.84 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Walmart) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.00 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $688.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-13 22:12 EST-0500

1660 is a terrible value considering you can get a 5700 for $290.  The 5700 can also use an XT bios to get withing the margin of error on performance to the actual XT.  

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44 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

1660 is a terrible value considering you can get a 5700 for $290.  The 5700 can also use an XT bios to get withing the margin of error on performance to the actual XT.  

Did they fix their driver issues with black screening,  frequent crashes and whatnot?  Last time I checked (like a week ago) this was still a huge issue with the 5700 series. 

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3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Did they fix their driver issues with black screening,  frequent crashes and whatnot?  Last time I checked (like a week ago) this was still a huge issue with the 5700 series. 

For what game?  I've not heard of this happening to anyone, and I know 3 guys with 5700s or XTs.  

 

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3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Did they fix their driver issues with black screening,  frequent crashes and whatnot?  Last time I checked (like a week ago) this was still a huge issue with the 5700 series. 

It seems like it was an issue this summer when the card was new, but I cant even find any threads with OPs newer than July.  Maybe some people with outdated versions of Adrenaline.

 

EDIT:  Yes there was a new version of Adrenaline released a week ago.

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1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

For what game?  I've not heard of this happening to anyone, and I know 3 guys with 5700s or XTs.  

 

Every game,  it's a driver issue acknowledged by AMD also.  And should be known,  especially when recommending these GPUs it should be mentioned. 

 

https://community.amd.com/thread/241528

 

It's still not fixed.Do some googling, people with issues everywhere  

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3 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Yes there was a new version of Adrenaline released a week ago.

AMD is releasing drivers constantly doesn't mean they fixed it. 

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3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Every game,  it's a driver issue acknowledged by AMD also.  And should be known,  especially when recommending these GPUs it should be mentioned. 

 

https://community.amd.com/thread/241528

 

It's still not fixed.Do some googling, people with issues everywhere  

>a thread from July where the guy had windows registry issues and outdated drivers

Jesus Christ.  

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17 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

>a thread from July where the guy had windows registry issues and outdated drivers

Jesus Christ.  

Here's a thread from October then

 

 

So you're saying they fixed it now.  Fine.  I do have my doubts though... 

 

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If I am honest, I really need to wait until the requirements for CP2077 drop....not what CDPRedused at E3.

While the budget side of my head wants to get a RX580, I am sure that I will have to jump up from that to play.

 

I am an older guy.....and 1080p at reasonable settings with decent frame rate is what I am looking for....

I do or did...play GW2, and my 10 year old mac lags / stops in populated regions so I stopped playing.

Other than that, I don't see me taking the eSports world by storm.....

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13 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Here's a thread from October then

 

 

So you're saying they fixed it now.  Fine.  I do have my doubts though... 

 

Once again, windows issue.  StreetGurus is running fine after the october update.

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So last night wife came home with a prebuilt CyberPower PC from Best Buy...for $750....not what I would have bought but gotta love her.... ..

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