RAM question

[DocYoda]

I am rebuilding my X99 system. I previously used Corsair dominators 16Gbx4 (64GB) with samsung B-die. These dominators are now with my X570 build. I am just wondering since the X99 paired with a 6850K, it only ran at 3200Mhz. Now I am just getting 3200Mhz of 8Gbx8 or 16Gbx4 or 8GBx4. I am just wondering if the chip really matter? Ballistix with micron or Gskill with Hynix or samsung? Which would be the best among these? Thank you

[dizmo]

If your chip has quad channel memory, go with 4 DIMMS.

[DocYoda]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

If your chip has quad channel memory, go with 4 DIMMS.

Yeah I am going with 4 DIMMS. I need advice on whether to get hynix or micron or samsung chip?

 

[Jurrunio]

They dont really matter. X99's memory bottleneck is the immature memory controller at the time

[GoldenLag]

34 minutes ago, DocYoda said:

I need advice on whether to get hynix or micron or samsung chip?

probably Micron E-die if you are going for high capacity, but it running at 3200mhz seems good enough to me. 

[1van]

58 minutes ago, DocYoda said:

I am rebuilding my X99 system. I previously used Corsair dominators 16Gbx4 (64GB) with samsung B-die. These dominators are now with my X570 build. I am just wondering since the X99 paired with a 6850K, it only ran at 3200Mhz. Now I am just getting 3200Mhz of 8Gbx8 or 16Gbx4 or 8GBx4. I am just wondering if the chip really matter? Ballistix with micron or Gskill with Hynix or samsung? Which would be the best among these? Thank you

Most X99s are really bad at memory OC, but since it's 4 Channel, it is somewhat easier for the CPU to drive 16GB stick per channel, comparing to your Ryzen system, which will have to drive 2x16GB sticks per channel.

 

In fact, I'd recommend keeping B-dies with your X99 system and getting a Micron E-die for your Ryzen system.

The thing is that Intel's IMC does not allow to set tRCD and tRP timings separately (and Ryzen's does), which is important for E-die (it can't do tight tRCD), and Samsung B-die normally allows low tRCD and tRP. The difference in performance is not that big though.

[dizmo]

7 hours ago, DocYoda said:

Yeah I am going with 4 DIMMS. I need advice on whether to get hynix or micron or samsung chip?

 

I don't think it really matters. It's not first gen Ryzen.

[Zando_]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I don't think it really matters. It's not first gen Ryzen.

^^^ Doesn't matter at all, especially for X99. Like the others said it's not really good for high clocked RAM anyways (I don't push mine because I've heard of the IMCs blowing out and bricking the chips), I just run 4x8GB 3200Mhz DDR4 in quad channel and call it a day. My kit is a HyperX Predator one, I don't even know if it's B-die or not and I've never bothered to check. Never had any Intel rigs throw fits with RAM ever (other than not running ECC because I was an idiot and got ECC-reg), even my Ryzen 5 1600 was fine if I just ran the RAM at 2933Mhz. 

[dizmo]

9 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

^^^ Doesn't matter at all, especially for X99. Like the others said it's not really good for high clocked RAM anyways (I don't push mine because I've heard of the IMCs blowing out and bricking the chips), I just run 4x8GB 3200Mhz DDR4 in quad channel and call it a day. My kit is a HyperX Predator one, I don't even know if it's B-die or not and I've never bothered to check. Never had any Intel rigs throw fits with RAM ever (other than not running ECC because I was an idiot and got ECC-reg), even my Ryzen 5 1600 was fine if I just ran the RAM at 2933Mhz. 

Lucky, Ryzen was a total shitshow when it came to RAM for me. I ended up selling off my Ryzen stuff and went back to Intel, who can actually make hardware properly.

[Zando_]

56 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Lucky, Ryzen was a total shitshow when it came to RAM for me. I ended up selling off my Ryzen stuff and went back to Intel, who can actually make hardware properly.

Oof. I switched back to Intel (X58) because OCing on the 2700X was basically non-existent. I had a $290 Crosshair VII and anything above 4.2GHz all-core was impossible (I could get 4.25 at borderline "safe" voltages). Whereas the stock boost is 4.35GHz or more. Not being able to even get above stock boost is an oof IMO. I understand it's better for most consumers to have the CPU already pushing the best perf it possibly can out of the box, but I like manually OCing mine and seeing noticeable increases in performance (an all-core OC on a 2700X is actually a slightly noticeable drop in performance for most games).