Hyper T2 replacement fan.

[HesCalledTheStig]

I am using a CoolerMaster Hyper T2 air cooler in my retro gaming rig. The fan on the cooler has started to randomly stop spinning under load. I’m on a tight budget and it’s easier for me to replace the fan than the whole cooler. I was looking at this as a replacement:

 

Arctic F9 PWM Rev. 2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing Case Fan, 92mm PWM Speed Control, 43CFM at 23.5DBA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H3SVWF4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yk3WDbT2QXPD9

 

Will this perform as well as the original fan?  If not, any sub $10 recomendations?  Has to be a 92mm and pwm. 

[emosun]

ive never heard of a fan failing by randomly not spining i'd sooner think theres something wrong with the source more than the fan

[HesCalledTheStig]

8 minutes ago, emosun said:

ive never heard of a fan failing by randomly not spining i'd sooner think theres something wrong with the source more than the fan

It’s definitely the fan. Any other fan I plug into the motherboard power header works just fine. The fan was making a high pitch whining noise for weeks before it finally started doing this. 

[Bitter]

Pretty much any fan will work but how well it cools and how quietly it does it is what's up for debate. What are you cooling with it, how hot does it get, and whats a comfortable temp to you?

 

[HesCalledTheStig]

Just now, Bitter said:

Pretty much any fan will work but how well it cools and how quietly it does it is what's up for debate. What are you cooling with it, how hot does it get, and whats a comfortable temp to you?

 

It’s cooling a q6600. The old fan kept it around 40* at idle and around 65* under load. It was loud when it ramped up so I’m not worried about the new fan being noisy. 

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, HesCalledTheStig said:

was making a high pitch whining noise for weeks

ok so that explains it. My guess is the bearing worn out.

 

31 minutes ago, HesCalledTheStig said:

Will this perform as well as the original fan?

the Arctic fans are pretty much the only fans that are cheap and cheerful if you ask me

[HesCalledTheStig]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

ok so that explains it. My guess is the bearing worn out.

 

the Arctic fans are pretty much the only fans that are cheap and cheerful if you ask me

I see there is also a beQuiet and a Noctua that run right around the same price. Would one of them work better?  I have to admit that I like the look of the Arctic specifically because it works with the pc’s color scheme. 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, HesCalledTheStig said:

I see there is also a beQuiet and a Noctua that run right around the same price. Would one of them work better?  I have to admit that I like the look of the Arctic specifically because it works with the pc’s color scheme. 

Lemme guess, Noctua redux fans and beQuiet Pure Wings? Those are previous gen of designs from both brand, not all that different from Arctic fans' performance if you ask me

[HesCalledTheStig]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Lemme guess, Noctua redux fans and beQuiet Pure Wings? Those are previous gen of designs from both brand, not all that different from Arctic fans' performance if you ask me

Yep, those are the ones. I might just grab 2 of the Arctic fans and try a push/pull setup with the cooler and see how it fairs. 

[Bitter]

I like the Noctua redux but I've only used them as case fans and in 80MM size so I can't help a ton. However I have used Cougar PWM fans for tower heat sinks frequently with decent results, mostly for the reduction in noise over the original Coolermaster fans which are kind of loud...but Cougar doesn't make anything other than 120/140 fans.

Push/pull won't get you much difference except more fan noise. The T2 isn't limited by airflow it's limited by heat pipe and fin stack counts. A 212 would handle a bit more heat no problem if you decided to OC it

 

I think you'd be fine with Noctua Redux or Arctic PWM, it would mostly be a color preference. A Q6600 running at stock clocks isn't a huge heat load, I had a large C2Q stock heat sink on an OC'd C2D Pentium Dual Core with a modest overclock with some extra vcore and the stock cooler kept it around 65C under full load without spinning the fan up much. Even in the summer basically outside in like 40C ambient lol!

[HesCalledTheStig]

11 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I like the Noctua redux but I've only used them as case fans and in 80MM size so I can't help a ton. However I have used Cougar PWM fans for tower heat sinks frequently with decent results, mostly for the reduction in noise over the original Coolermaster fans which are kind of loud...but Cougar doesn't make anything other than 120/140 fans.

Push/pull won't get you much difference except more fan noise. The T2 isn't limited by airflow it's limited by heat pipe and fin stack counts. A 212 would handle a bit more heat no problem if you decided to OC it

 

I think you'd be fine with Noctua Redux or Arctic PWM, it would mostly be a color preference. A Q6600 running at stock clocks isn't a huge heat load, I had a large C2Q stock heat sink on an OC'd C2D Pentium Dual Core with a modest overclock with some extra vcore and the stock cooler kept it around 65C under full load without spinning the fan up much. Even in the summer basically outside in like 40C ambient lol!

I put the order in for the Arctic fan. I had already talked myself out of the push/pull setup after watching a couple YouTube vids.  I’ll just be glad to have this computer back up and running so my wife can play The Sims and stay off my gaming rig. Haha!

[Bitter]

I guess I shouldn't tell you that Sims runs in 7/10 fairly easily and that a Pentium G3460 (like $20 now) outperforms a Q6600 by leaps and bounds while using around 20W of power and toss in an R7 250 you have a competent PC for older games even if you're running older versions of Windows in VM...and the whole PC uses like 200W at full load and can basically be passively cooled with a single 120MM case fan and well planned airflow. You can run an i3 4130 or 4150 or a low to mid end i5 Haswell (even the low power ones) and game fairly well with something like a GTX 950. I mean I get that the Q6600 works and is already bought but the budget Haswell and the next few gens up are at that price sweet spot where the performance per dollar is hard to ignore and the gains in performance are just huge.

[HesCalledTheStig]

7 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I guess I shouldn't tell you that Sims runs in 7/10 fairly easily and that a Pentium G3460 outperforms a Q6600 by leaps and bounds while using like 20W of power and toss in an R7 250 you have a competent PC for older games even if you're running older versions of Windows in VM...and the whole PC uses like 200W of power at full load and can basically be passively cooled with a single 120MM case fan and well planned airflow.

The G3460 is an lga 1150 cpu correct?  Right now her PC (which is really MY retro gaming pc) is a q6600 paired with 8gb of DDR2 (I think it’s DDR2 at least) and my old GTX 650 ti Boost.  I will admit that it is pretty power hungry for what we use it for. 

[Bitter]

Yes, it's got roughly double the single core performance of that Q6600 which is partly architectural advancements and partly a 1ghz speed difference. I did however bench a 3.5Ghz OC'd E6800 vs the G3460 and the 3460 in raw numbers throughput was the easy winner doing prime95 math about 50% faster under a large HP stock heat sink with the fan unplugged it peaked at about 70-75C. That's not even a heat sink meant for passive use! LOL

 

I guess the real determinator would be what OS you need to run, if it's XP you should stick with your current rig because there's no XP drivers for Haswell stuff. If you're OK running XP, 98, 95, DOS, etc in VM then a Haswell machine with say an i5 4590S and 8GB of RAM and that 650Ti would do pretty well and that would open up that PC to doing more than just retro gaming. Food for thought, if what you have works for what you need there's nothing wrong with it.

 

Bonus fact, if you buy a used motherboard there's a decent chance it'll have a Windows key in it which is valid, especially if it's a cheaper OEM board. They can be a little picky about fans sometimes though.