Gaming Tower Build

[shujin]

Hi guys, I'm building this gaming tower for a friend of my parents. Since I have no knowledge of the current tech situation between amd and nvidia / amd and intel, I took a popular build on pcpartpicker and modified it, so I'm really not sure of myself on this one lol. I live in Canada but I have the option of crossing the border to buy my part this is what I came up with. What do you think ?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$199.00 @ Canada Computers
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-L12S 55.44 CFM CPU Cooler	$65.34 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Memory Express
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$107.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$91.95 @ shopRBC
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.98 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 590 8 GB NITRO+ SE Video Card	$273.99 @ Vuugo
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	Antec VP PLUS 650 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$68.99 @ PC-Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1187.72
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$1177.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-05 00:09 EST-0500

 

[Mark Kaine]

Looks reasonable to me,  prices seem a bit high tho,  but I'm from Europe so I'm unaware of the situation in your locale 

 

 

[dizmo]

Wait for Black Friday.

Problems with the current build:

• That cooler is garbage, get something like a U14S.
• Get 3200mhz+ RAM.
• Why do you have such an odd storage set up?
• I'd get a bit better of a case, that one sucks.

[Sorenson]

I would go with this instead:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$253.25 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler	$43.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Canada Computers
Memory	Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$83.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB Twin Fan Video Card	$309.00 @ Canada Computers
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$87.24 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA GM 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$115.75 @ Vuugo
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1213.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-05 14:04 EST-0500

Its a little more price optimized in my opinion. If you want to make it cheaper I would cut back on the case, or a cheaper MSI b450 motherboard without built in wifi. 

[Sorenson]

i forgot to mention you may need to update the bios on the b450 motherboard before it will work with the 3600. 

[Mark Kaine]

54 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

i forgot to mention you may need to update the bios on the b450 motherboard before it will work with the 3600. 

And I thought that's precisely why OP chose a 2600x,  which is imo very reasonable,  you don't always need the latest,  and I think those new Ryzens might be a bit overhyped and the 2nd gen ones are still a very good option - and depending on workload maybe even better.

 

I could be wrong and the OP just chose this more or less randomly - in any case as a R5 3600 owner I wouldn't do it anymore,  updating the BIOS of my MSI board was a huge pita, I would go with a 2700x instead now,  benchmarks (which are never objective anyway)  be damned. 

[Sorenson]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

And I thought that's precisely why OP chose a 2600x,  which is imo very reasonable,  you don't always need the latest,  and I think those new Ryzens might be a bit overhyped and the 2nd gen ones are still a very good option - and depending on workload maybe even better.

 

I could be wrong and the OP just chose this more or less randomly - in any case as a R5 3600 owner I wouldn't do it anymore,  updating the BIOS of my MSI board was a huge pita, I would go with a 2700x instead now,  benchmarks (which are never objective anyway)  be damned. 

I mean its a problem 1 time and then it works and you get more performance. 

[shujin]

On 11/5/2019 at 3:09 PM, Mark Kaine said:

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On 11/5/2019 at 4:54 PM, Sorenson said:

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I'm thinking that right now the 2600x is cheaper and will permit the user to upgrade the bios and upgrade the cpu later when the price drops. I was enticed by the 3600 when I made the build but I told myself that 6 core 3.6Ghz will be more than enough. I'm taking everything you guys said into account and I'll post the updated version shortly.

[shujin]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$168.87 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Memory Express
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$130.62 @ shopRBC
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	$479.99 @ Memory Express
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$73.92 @ Vuugo
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1243.87
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1213.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 01:47 EST-0500

Here is my updated part list, this I find to be a much more solid build even if I make less margin. What do you guys think? Any way to scrape some money?

[Sorenson]

7 hours ago, shujin said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$168.87 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Memory Express
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$130.62 @ shopRBC
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$55.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	$479.99 @ Memory Express
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$73.92 @ Vuugo
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1243.87
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1213.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 01:47 EST-0500

Here is my updated part list, this I find to be a much more solid build even if I make less margin. What do you guys think? Any way to scrape some money?

Two things, I don’t know the specifics for the ROG strix b450, but I know some of Asus’ b450 boards had poor VRMs. The general consensus was go with MSI or Asrock. That board might be fine, I would just double check it. 
 

Second, check the power supply with the forms power supply tier list to make sure it isn’t crap. 
 

otherwise it looks much better!

[shujin]

4 hours ago, Sorenson said:

Two things, I don’t know the specifics for the ROG strix b450, but I know some of Asus’ b450 boards had poor VRMs. The general consensus was go with MSI or Asrock. That board might be fine, I would just double check it. 
 

Second, check the power supply with the forms power supply tier list to make sure it isn’t crap. 
 

otherwise it looks much better!

Great thanks for the input, I didn't know at all about the motherboard situation this one looks cool and as good review, VRMs what's that ?? I'll look that issue up thanks. For the power supply I had that form in the past but lost it haha I'll look on this forum later . Thanks I realized how the current meta works doing the build ^^ was fun. 

[Sorenson]

4 minutes ago, shujin said:

Great thanks for the input, I didn't know at all about the motherboard situation this one looks cool and as good review, VRMs what's that ?? I'll look that issue up thanks. For the power supply I had that form in the past but lost it haha I'll look on this forum later . Thanks I realized how the current meta works doing the build ^^ was fun. 

VRMs are part of the power delivery for the CPU. some of the early B450 motherboards cheeped out on it because the manufacturers didn't realize the ryzen 2xxx series was going to be popular.

[shujin]

here is the final build list ya'll, I will ask the guy if he wants to upgrade the NVME to 1tb for 50$ more but this looks good enough to play fortnite lmao.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$169.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$164.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$86.95 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$74.75 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$482.50 @ Vuugo
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$73.92 @ Vuugo
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1207.09
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$1197.09
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-08 00:41 EST-0500

 

[Sorenson]

They just released the MSI b450 tomahawk max, or something like that which comes with bios ready for ryzen 3000. You might want to swap that in if it’s the same price

[shujin]

14 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

They just released the MSI b450 tomahawk max, or something like that which comes with bios ready for ryzen 3000. You might want to swap that in if it’s the same price

It's exactly the same board with the bios update preinstalled, I'm I missing something?

[shujin]

I just saw the IO on the tomahawk board, are they kidding ? 5 USB port is not much... I'm reconsidering the asus strix lol just for the IO. 

[Sorenson]

8 minutes ago, shujin said:

It's exactly the same board with the bios update preinstalled, I'm I missing something?

It’s so people can buy it and use it out of the box with the ryzen 3000 series. Some people don’t know how to update bios or don’t want to.

[shujin]

Hi guys, so here is the real final version, I'll buy the parts slowly and update you as I go along :3 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$159.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$144.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$86.50 @ Vuugo
Storage	Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$74.75 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$400.00 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Corsair SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$68.99 @ Powertop
Power Supply	SeaSonic EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Newegg Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1104.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-25 14:13 EST-0500