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Hi everyone, this is my first post here and i'm looking for a little help. Recently I've been having a rather strange boot issue whereby my PC will only seem to boot if the amount of ram installed has changed since the PC was shutdown. Strange i know. Any ideas? i7 4770K, Rx580, gigabyte z97 mobo

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Which Gigabyte mobo (model name matters)? And have you made sure to reset the BIOS to default? Also what RAM are you running?

Also also welcome to the forums, hope we can help you out! ?

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It's the Z97-d3h (rev1.1). I've tried several different RAM kits and it makes no difference at all. I've changed the battery in the last month as i thought the same thing but again no change. I'm now considering updating the BIOS but I'm worried about bricking my mobo

 

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8 minutes ago, JamieRobb said:

It's the Z97-d3h (rev1.1). I've tried several different RAM kits and it makes no difference at all. I've changed the battery in the last month as i thought the same thing but again no change. I'm now considering updating the BIOS but I'm worried about bricking my mobo

 

Hmmm...that's very weird. What RAM are you using? Have you tried different DIMM sockets?

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11 minutes ago, JamieRobb said:

It's the Z97-d3h (rev1.1). I've tried several different RAM kits and it makes no difference at all. I've changed the battery in the last month as i thought the same thing but again no change. I'm now considering updating the BIOS but I'm worried about bricking my mobo

You can quote people with the little arrow on the bottom of their post, it'll give them a notification that you replied. Or you can tag them like so: @steelo. 

I doubt it's an issue with the RAM itself since you said you tried multiple kits. Does it still POST (boot to the BIOS screen/into the BIOS) and just refuses to boot into Windows? Or does it not want to turn on at all? 

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5 minutes ago, JamieRobb said:

at the moment corsair vengenge ddr3 9 9 9 24 1600mhz

 

I'm at a loss...maybe ZandoBob would be able to offer more assistance.

 

Try using different DIMM sockets (1,3 and 2,4...reference the manual) making sure you stagger for dual channel. Stupid question, are both sticks exactly the same memory? 

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4 minutes ago, steelo said:

I'm at a loss...maybe ZandoBob would be able to offer more assistance.

 

Try using different DIMM sockets (1,3 and 2,4) making sure you keep them staggered for dual channel.

Defo try swapping channels:
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Slots 2 and 4 are Channel A, slots 1 and 3 are Channel B. Try running only 2 sticks and swapping channels, if one works and the other is weird then you know it's an issue with the memory channels (which would be a mobo or IMC fault AFAIK). 

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

You can quote people with the little arrow on the bottom of their post, it'll give them a notification that you replied. Or you can tag them like so: @steelo. 

I doubt it's an issue with the RAM itself since you said you tried multiple kits. Does it still POST (boot to the BIOS screen/into the BIOS) and just refuses to boot into Windows? Or does it not want to turn on at all? 

Yes but only if repeatedly powered on and off again until i get a boot failed message at which point i can enter BIOS through the prompt. However if i take a stick of RAM out or add one in before i switch it on it boots straight to windows. It seems like the only way to get a first time boot is to change the amount of RAM from when the PC was last powered on.

 

P.S. Thanks for the tip @Zando Bob I'm still new here

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@Zando Bob @steelo sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you guys. After spending the last few weeks swapping out everything but the motherboard i thought the motherboard was in fact the problem. However a couple of days ago windows updated and now the problem seems to have disappeared so i can only put it down to this, but i'm not sure how windows could really be causing boot issues. Thanks again for all your help

  

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