Tv instead of regular screen

[Hmeh]

I plan to get a new screen in the future and I had a thought to ignore the regular monitor altogether and grab a 60/65 inch 4k tv instead. I was wondering how good would this setup be for gaming/multimedia in general? Do current tvs have good input lag/response itmes for games like Doom? From the productivity standpoint how does Windows behave, are you able to work normally?

[emosun]

I use a 4k 60" tv for my daily. Seems fine to me. I just like sitting close and having a big screen. The only downside is the tv has a weird dithering subpixel layout because go figure you're not suppose to sit close to it but other than that it work pretty good.

As for input lag that typically isn't something you see on a modern tv as it's expected you'd be using it as a monitor for video games or computer work

[Hmeh]

That makes things easier a lot from the planning side. I'd move to about 6-7ft  away so I was worried how readable stuff on the screen would be.

 

Which TV do you have? Do you have any advice what to look for and what to avoid? I don't need any "smart" stuff from it, 4k, 60 (or more) refresh rate and if possible decent HDR is what I'd like to find.

[SolarNova]

@Hmeh

 

So i use a 42" 1080p Plasma TV, in regards to size i can tell u its fine, i sit with my eyes between 4 and 5 feet away.

 

That said, the only thing u should take away from that is viewing distance for that size and resolution, being Plasma i dont have to worry about certain issues you will in regards to LCD performance.

 

There is no inherent reason not to use a large TV for a monitor. You just have to ensure it has been reviewed so u can find out about things like;

Input latency, anything under 25ms is good for a TV, anything under 10ms is good for a monitor, you can find TV's with 15ms input latency which is great.

Response time is a big factor with TVs as most TVs are VA LCD, thus response times tend to be slower than what u find in monitors, especially TN and IPS monitors. But there are some that are good enough.

For high refresh sub 4k resolutions u have to look at 55"+ TV as the 49" and 43" version dont have the higher refresh capability. note this does not mean u can do 4k 120hz, just that u can run 1440 and/or 1080p at 120hz on it if u so choose.

A bonus with TV is they tend to have far far superior black uniformity (BLB) than monitors, making dark scenes displayed on the screen, and use of the screen in dark environments much much better than a monitor.

 

I would advise u check out rtings.com and use the below tool to search through reviews so u can find a model that matches your expectations and requirements.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/12224

 

 

[Hmeh]

14 hours ago, SolarNova said:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/12224

That's a great website, thanks!

55-60 is what I would be aiming at, 65 at most. Which price range would you consider for a good tv? The 2000$ LG sure looks nice tho I have no idea how much price affects how well the tv is.

[Kilrah]

I used to have a 65" TV but it was a bit too much. 49" curved now and I'm happy. But that's with it on the desk, the main problem with 65 is even with it as low as possible on the desk you couldn't be centered on the height so you had to look up which I don't find comfortable. With the 49 it's perfect.

I always use Samsung models since I know they work fine in RGB888 at 4K60 and have reasonable latency in game mode. Tried to connect PCs to other brands in the past and had issues such as only supporting YUV422 which is awful for desktop/text/general work.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

23 minutes ago, Hmeh said:

55-60 is what I would be aiming at, 65 at most. Which price range would you consider for a good tv? The 2000$ LG sure looks nice tho I have no idea how much price affects how well the tv is.

imo the samsung ru7100 is good enough, low input lag, relative cheap and well branded

but if you want free sync, you need to pay much more for higher model

[Hmeh]

21 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

I used to have a 65" TV but it was a bit too much. 49" curved now and I'm happy. But that's with it on the desk, the main problem with 65 is even with it as low as possible on the desk you couldn't be centered on the height so you had to look up which I don't find comfortable. With the 49 it's perfect.

I always use Samsung models since I know they work fine in RGB888 at 4K60 and have reasonable latency in game mode. Tried to connect PCs to other brands in the past and had issues such as only supporting YUV422 which is awful for desktop/text/general work.

Thanks for sharing! I'm going the opposite route. I now have a 23" screen, but I wanted to get rid of the current desk and turn the room in a multimedia setup with pc/ av receiver and big screen and getting a big tv will save me space ironically. Really? Was this your experience with LG as well? I might be a little biased towards them since I heard they have damn good tvs, but then again I don't need a clasical tv, I barely watch any at all.

 

13 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

imo the samsung ru7100 is good enough, low input lag, relative cheap and well branded

but if you want free sync, you need to pay much more for higher model

That's a really neat/affordable model! I don't need GSync/Freesync per se, I want good pic quality, fast response/low lag and 60hz at a minimum. Good HDR and G/FreeSync are a bonus.

[circeseye]

47 minutes ago, Hmeh said:

Thanks for sharing! I'm going the opposite route. I now have a 23" screen, but I wanted to get rid of the current desk and turn the room in a multimedia setup with pc/ av receiver and big screen and getting a big tv will save me space ironically. Really? Was this your experience with LG as well? I might be a little biased towards them since I heard they have damn good tvs, but then again I don't need a clasical tv, I barely watch any at all.

 

That's a really neat/affordable model! I don't need GSync/Freesync per se, I want good pic quality, fast response/low lag and 60hz at a minimum. Good HDR and G/FreeSync are a bonus.

noooo not the samsung 7100 series go with at least a 8000 series or newer (i have a 7100) hdr on the 7100 series sucks with win 10...the 8000 series and newer  hdr works a hell of a lot better.
son has a lg and its hdr is way better also. doesnt have the soap opera effect and plays nicer with win 10

[Hmeh]

1 hour ago, circeseye said:

noooo not the samsung 7100 series go with at least a 8000 series or newer (i have a 7100) hdr on the 7100 series sucks with win 10...the 8000 series and newer  hdr works a hell of a lot better.
son has a lg and its hdr is way better also. doesnt have the soap opera effect and plays nicer with win 10

Alright, series 7 from Samsung no bueno. What else to avoid? Which other series would you recommends so that I can narrow down the search.

[SolarNova]

7 hours ago, Hmeh said:

That's a great website, thanks!

55-60 is what I would be aiming at, 65 at most. Which price range would you consider for a good tv? The 2000$ LG sure looks nice tho I have no idea how much price affects how well the tv is.

~£/$ 700 will get you a TV that can have good enough tested specs for PC and gaming at 55".

 

Notably the Samsung NU and RU 8000+ displays.

 

However any of the displays in the below list would be good for gaming as they all have 1080p and 1440p 120hz compatibility, Black Frame Insertion for better motion clarity, and VRR.

 

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/12340

 

They range from £/$700 to £/$ 2500, though beyond £/$ 1100  you might want to consider an OLED , IF, and only IF you are willing to baby sit it a little and adjust ur usage to avoid 'potential' 'burn-in'. if u are, then an OLED is hands down the best of the best in terms of image quality and even gaming performance.