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9600k Constant turbo in idle?

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3 minutes ago, hillsr said:

Apologies, my understanding was that Turbo only kicks in when required?

No, Turbo Boost kicks in if your system can handle it, it's like your best case scenario frequency if temperature and power feeding from PSU and Motherboard are favourable, you managed to get the all cores turbo boost so your system is by all means working exactly as expected.

 

7 minutes ago, hillsr said:

So the 4.4 clock isn't required.

It is not about what is required, it is what it can do... if you don't want a high performance CPU than buy a Pentium G.

 

8 minutes ago, hillsr said:

as at the moment, it means when I'm sitting at idle my x62 Kraken is working more than it should otherwise need to).

It isn't because frequency alone has nothing to do with the work your CPU is doing, CPU usage is it actually working and on Intel XTU you can see exactly how much electricity the CPU is consuming here:

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It's frequency will have an effect of at most 1W to 2W, what does make the consume go up is it actually doing something, having high % of usage, running programs games etc.

Hi all,

 

First time post here, after a recent build (first ever attempt). My CPU *appears* to be in constant turbo - 3.7Mhz base but constantly running at 4.4Mhz... I have turned Multi Core Enhancement off in BIOS (latest firmware, F10), Turbo is set to Auto, having XMP Profile as default or on makes no difference, PC Power Mode is balanced in Windows... any thoughts? I don't mind the constant high clocks and temps are fine but ideally I'd have it sit at the 3.7 when idle and turbo when it's meant to. Temps fine and performs well under load etc, no concerns there.

I have tried everything I could find online but unfortunately nothing has fixed it. If anyone has any ideas it'd be greatly appreciated. Apologies if I'm just being thick.

Specs:

- Intel® Core™ i5-9600K Processor
- Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0)
- 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance RGB PRO Black, PC4-24000 (3000), Non-ECC Unbuff, CAS 15-17-17-35, RGB LED, 1.35V    
- 650W Corsair RMx Series 2018 RM650x, Full Modular, 80PLUS Gold, SLI/CrossFire, Single Rail, 54A, 140mm Fan, ATX PSU
- NZXT Kraken X62, 280mm All-In-One CPU Hydro Cooler
- NZXT H710i, Black, Mid Tower w/ Glass Window
- MSI 1070 8GB GPU

 

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And what's the problem here? this is expected behaviour and this hasn't any meaningful impact on power consumption.

 

If you want to force it downclock you have to select power saver on windows power settings then go to advanced power options on Processor Power Management select Minimum Processor State and max it out to 100%.

 

This is however have negligible impact on power savings at the cost of performance and slow downs as the system will take longer to turbo-up and purposely throttle itself.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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is CAM the only app you're looking at your speed from?

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noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover

evga 3070 ultra

samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb

seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

And what's the problem here? this is expected behaviour and this hasn't any meaningful impact on power consumption.

 

If you want to force it downclock you have to select power saver on windows power settings then go to advanced power options on Processor Power Management select Minimum Processor State and max it out to 100%.

 

This is however have negligible impact on power savings at the cost of performance and slow downs as the system will take longer to turbo-up and purposely throttle itself.

Apologies, my understanding was that Turbo only kicks in when required? This is running like this at idle, only actual prog running is Chrome. So the 4.4 clock isn't required. Just wanted to make sure everything is running as it should be when idle (as at the moment, it means when I'm sitting at idle my x62 Kraken is working more than it should otherwise need to). Thank you for the response & help 
 

17 minutes ago, mxk said:

is CAM the only app you're looking at your speed from?


I also have Afterburner and Intel Tuning showing their results in the OP. CPU-Z isn't loading at the moment unfortunately (sticks on 65% / storage), any other software that would provide better results? Thanks

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1 minute ago, hillsr said:

I also have Afterburner and Intel Tuning showing their results in the OP. CPU-Z isn't loading at the moment unfortunately (sticks on 65% / storage), any other software that would provide better results? Thanks

Nah what you're using is fine, I was asking because CAM can be really buggy

8086k

aorus pro z390

noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover

evga 3070 ultra

samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb

seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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3 minutes ago, hillsr said:

Apologies, my understanding was that Turbo only kicks in when required?

No, Turbo Boost kicks in if your system can handle it, it's like your best case scenario frequency if temperature and power feeding from PSU and Motherboard are favourable, you managed to get the all cores turbo boost so your system is by all means working exactly as expected.

 

7 minutes ago, hillsr said:

So the 4.4 clock isn't required.

It is not about what is required, it is what it can do... if you don't want a high performance CPU than buy a Pentium G.

 

8 minutes ago, hillsr said:

as at the moment, it means when I'm sitting at idle my x62 Kraken is working more than it should otherwise need to).

It isn't because frequency alone has nothing to do with the work your CPU is doing, CPU usage is it actually working and on Intel XTU you can see exactly how much electricity the CPU is consuming here:

image.png.9e8ff39b179bb5144b910e68ddfceda8.png

 

It's frequency will have an effect of at most 1W to 2W, what does make the consume go up is it actually doing something, having high % of usage, running programs games etc.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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On 10/20/2019 at 5:39 PM, mxk said:

Nah what you're using is fine, I was asking because CAM can be really buggy

 

On 10/20/2019 at 5:48 PM, Princess Luna said:

No, Turbo Boost kicks in if your system can handle it, it's like your best case scenario frequency if temperature and power feeding from PSU and Motherboard are favourable, you managed to get the all cores turbo boost so your system is by all means working exactly as expected.

 

It is not about what is required, it is what it can do... if you don't want a high performance CPU than buy a Pentium G.

 

It isn't because frequency alone has nothing to do with the work your CPU is doing, CPU usage is it actually working and on Intel XTU you can see exactly how much electricity the CPU is consuming here: <Image Removed>

It's frequency will have an effect of at most 1W to 2W, what does make the consume go up is it actually doing something, having high % of usage, running programs games etc.


Thank you both for the replies - very much appreciated, makes more sense now. I think my concern when I first saw it was that the clock was constantly high and the Kraken is running above avg (normally 1 - 1.2k RPM from my understanding) but I can tweak that as necessary. 

Thanks again :)

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