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Worth Upgrading? Chipset B360 to Z390?

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Hi, 

 

I have i7 9700, asus strix 5700xt, 8x2 2666mhz hyperx predator ram with GIGABYTE b360m ds3h. 

 

I found Asus z390A prime available for trade off with additional 100 dollars. 

 

is it worth?

 

1- Can i run higher clock speeds although CPU is rated to support 2666mhz as per intel website? PS my ram can run 4000mhz+

2-Can i run all cores at max turbo boost of 4.7ghz?

3- Do the extra 10 PCIE lanes on the board affect or increase performance, CPU OR GPU? 

4-Does intel take benefits of higher ram speeds? similar to AMD? 

 

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2 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

2-Can i run all cores at max turbo boost of 4.7ghz?

Only K SKU CPUs get to use multicore enhancement.

 

2 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

Do the extra 10 PCIE lanes on the board affect or increase performance, CPU OR GPU? 

Nope

 

2 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

4-Does intel take benefits of higher ram speeds? similar to AMD? 

Yes, but if you're already meeting your performance standards, why upgrade?

 

What is your current performance target?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Only K SKU CPUs get to use multicore enhancement.

 

Nope

 

Yes, but if you're already meeting your performance standards, why upgrade?

 

What is your current performance target?

i thought i can squeeze a little extra performance, as per 3D Mark, PCMark, R15 and R20 benchmarks im getting the expected results from my rig. 

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1 minute ago, Khader87 said:

i thought i can squeeze a little extra performance, as per 3D Mark, PCMark, R15 and R20 benchmarks im getting the expected results from my rig. 

are you getting the refresh rate of your monitor with good 1% lows in games?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

are you getting the refresh rate of your monitor with good 1% lows in games?

Yes, im getting good FPS, good 1%lows, cant complain. 

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No point for Z390, unless you get even higher frequency memory.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

Yes, im getting good FPS, good 1%lows, cant complain. 

then unless you plan on getting a K SKU CPU down the line it's probably not worth it

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

No point for Z390, unless you get even higher frequency memory.

Can i run higher ram frequency? i7 9700 is rated 2666mhz?

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2 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

Can i run higher ram frequency? i7 9700 is rated 2666mhz?

That is a form of overclocking, whether you could do it at all depends on the board and not the CPU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That is a form of overclocking, whether you could do it at all depends on the board and not the CPU.

yes, So the CPU wont matter? if i run 4000mhz ram and my board support it, the CPU wont have any issue with that. because intel site says only 2666mhz ram. 

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8 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

So the CPU wont matter?

the maximum results are still limited by how good the memory controller and the board is, but you can definitely violate Intel or even the board vendors' specs (that's the whole point of overclocking)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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13 minutes ago, Khader87 said:

yes, So the CPU wont matter? if i run 4000mhz ram and my board support it, the CPU wont have any issue with that. because intel site says only 2666mhz ram. 

Yes Intel say that, but you shouldnt have any Problems. I dont see the need for your Plan tho. The possible Performance boost you could get is also combinded with risk.  Your PC looks nice and if you have no Performance Issues, i wouldnt change anything. Just try to run higher clockspeeds with your current board.

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18 minutes ago, Praesi said:

Yes Intel say that, but you shouldnt have any Problems. I dont see the need for your Plan tho. The possible Performance boost you could get is also combinded with risk.  Your PC looks nice and if you have no Performance Issues, i wouldnt change anything. Just try to run higher clockspeeds with your current board.

i couldn't, i run all cores between 3.3ghz to 3.5ghz, vrm mos gets very hot. around 90s

 

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