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Will a 5820k bottleneck an RTX 2070?

Fausto315

Recently I've been lacking in the graphics department as my 980 with a mere 4gb of vram just hasn't really been cutting it for modern games even at 1080p. I currently have an i7 5820k which has worked well for me for years. I was looking into the RTX 2070 and it looks very compelling for the price. However, I'm not 100% sure if it would be worth just upgrading my GPU as opposed to just building a new PC when it comes to bottlenecking. Would my CPU bottleneck a 2070? Would it be worth it to just get a new PC altogether even if I get a GPU that is slightly slower than a 2070 if I'm getting a current gen CPU?

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tbh I'm rocking a 5820k with a 1080 ti right now and not seeing much bottleneck :) I am running at like 4Ghz which is a +0.7Ghz but even at the standard 3.3Ghz I'm sometimes at because BIOS being stupid and resetting, the fps is fine. 

 

Edit: To clarify, I'm personally not seeing any bottleneck. Nothing that I look at and say "Wow am I being bottlenecked?" If there is a bottleneck, it'll be 1 or 2 fps, nothing I'm noticing 

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6 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

Recently I've been lacking in the graphics department as my 980 with a mere 4gb of vram just hasn't really been cutting it for modern games even at 1080p. I currently have an i7 5820k which has worked well for me for years. I was looking into the RTX 2070 and it looks very compelling for the price. However, I'm not 100% sure if it would be worth just upgrading my GPU as opposed to just building a new PC when it comes to bottlenecking. Would my CPU bottleneck a 2070? Would it be worth it to just get a new PC altogether even if I get a GPU that is slightly slower than a 2070 if I'm getting a current gen CPU?

If you overclock it, it should be perfect.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

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Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

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I dont see any Need for an CPU Upgrade.

CPU i7 6700k MB  MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO

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The 5820k, the amazing overclocker that it is, is just a mildly slower 8700K. 6 cores that don't struggle to reach above 4GHz for your gaming purposes, quad channel ram for decent bandwidth even with low frequency,  etc etc. 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

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I'm running a "5930k" with a 2070 and it works great. I don't know what bottlenecks you're talking about.

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14 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

If you overclock it, it should be perfect.

Would it be fine without overclocking? just worried about the lifespan of my CPU and i'm considering switching to an air cooler from an h100i for less noise. I did have it overclocked for a good 2 years but I recently set it back to default because I'm admittedly kind of new to overclocking and despite watching a lot of videos I kinda suck at it and can never find a stable overclock. 

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14 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

Would it be fine without overclocking? just worried about the lifespan of my CPU and i'm considering switching to an air cooler from an h100i for less noise. I did have it overclocked for a good 2 years but I recently set it back to default because I'm admittedly kind of new to overclocking and despite watching a lot of videos I kinda suck at it and can never find a stable overclock. 

That I'm not too sure about. I had 6800K and that could only do 4.2Ghz. It didn't feel ultra speedy. Even in 2016.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

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20 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

Would it be fine without overclocking? just worried about the lifespan of my CPU and i'm considering switching to an air cooler from an h100i for less noise. I did have it overclocked for a good 2 years but I recently set it back to default because I'm admittedly kind of new to overclocking and despite watching a lot of videos I kinda suck at it and can never find a stable overclock. 

I've been running my 5820K @ 4.5GHz for 4 years new. Still going strong.

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5820k @ 4.6 GHz here. Haven't taken the OC off in 4-5 years. Running it with a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 and it's dead silent. Not sure what the temps are off the top of my head but I don't think they go over 70-75C on a quiet fan curve.

 

Pairs well with my 1080 ti.

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1 minute ago, Votivee said:

5820k @ 4.6 GHz here. Haven't taken the OC off in 4-5 years. Running it with a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 and it's dead silent. Not sure what the temps are off the top of my head but I don't think they go over 70-75C on a quiet fan curve.

 

Pairs well with my 1080 ti.

Can I ask what voltage you're running at? 

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11 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

Can I ask what voltage you're running at? 

I'll get back to you on that, I haven't had to mess with it since initially setting the OC.

 

I followed this video exactly and then made my own minor tweaks from there:

 

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15 minutes ago, Votivee said:

I'll get back to you on that, I haven't had to mess with it since initially setting the OC.

 

I followed this video exactly and then made my own minor tweaks from there:

 

slightly unrelated question, my CPU has been overclocked for the past 3 ish years, if I overclock it more, will the lifespan possibly get worse? it's a little over 4 years old by now and I've heard mixed things on overclocking and hardware lifespan.

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2 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

slightly unrelated question, my CPU has been overclocked for the past 3 ish years, if I overclock it more, will the lifespan possibly get worse? it's a little over 4 years old by now and I've heard mixed things on overclocking and hardware lifespan.

Possibly, but you're talking about shaving an extra year or two off an expected 30 year lifespan.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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3 minutes ago, Fausto315 said:

slightly unrelated question, my CPU has been overclocked for the past 3 ish years, if I overclock it more, will the lifespan possibly get worse? it's a little over 4 years old by now and I've heard mixed things on overclocking and hardware lifespan.

Unless you plan on keeping your CPU until the year 2040 don't worry about it

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1 hour ago, Fausto315 said:

Would it be fine without overclocking? just worried about the lifespan of my CPU and i'm considering switching to an air cooler from an h100i for less noise. I did have it overclocked for a good 2 years but I recently set it back to default because I'm admittedly kind of new to overclocking and despite watching a lot of videos I kinda suck at it and can never find a stable overclock. 

You'll be fine. I run my at stock settings.

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