9350KF vs 9600K???

[EvaFrisson]

So I'm in the middle of parting out a new build and have hit a bit of a road block, I cant decide whether to go with the 9350KF or the 9600K. 

 

Using a Z370 Aorus Pro, Vengeance 3000mhz c15 memory, with a 2070s, What I want to know is whether going with the 9350KF will hamper gaming performance in any way. I also do some light SketchUp work but that performance difference, if there is one, wont really sway me either way.

 

Price isn't really a factor, however I would of course rather not pay more than I had to.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

Thanks.

 

PS. Living in Aus, so the 3950KF is going for around $275 and the 9600K for $360-375.

[Fasauceome]

It's hard to recommend a mere quad core for gaming, the overclockable i3 models are sort of absurd in my opinion. i5 all the way, and also you wouldn't be much worse off with an i5 8600K either, if you can get that at a lower price.

[Mister Woof]

Don't buy a 4/4 chip in 2019.

 

Actually, don't get anything less than 8/16 imo.

 

6/12 is probably okay, but that's already starting behind.

[EvaFrisson]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

It's hard to recommend a mere quad core for gaming, the overclockable i3 models are sort of absurd in my opinion. i5 all the way, and also you wouldn't be much worse off with an i5 8600K either, if you can get that at a lower price.

Fair enough. I only thought about is as I had come across some interesting benchmarks that put the i3 only a couple frames behind the i5. My only worry was potential bottlenecking with a 2070s as well as any future scalability when it comes to multicore performance in games.

 

As for getting my hands on a 8600K, not likely. New they cost about $400(wut) and the used market for PC componects over here is sparse at the best of times. 

[Jurrunio]

Even the 6 core 12 thread R5 3600 beats 9600k in terms of frame rate stability, the quad core parts are really not recommended when you can afford RTX cards.

[EvaFrisson]

13 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Don't buy a 4/4 chip in 2019.

 

Actually, don't get anything less than 8/16 imo.

 

6/12 is probably okay, but that's already starting behind.

What am I doing that is going to require 16 threads? Also the 3700X costs over $500 in Aus, and the 3600x is still more expensive than the 9600K. I'm looking to spend less not more...

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, EvaFrisson said:

My only worry was potential bottlenecking with a 2070s as well as any future scalability when it comes to multicore performance in games

that's generally the main benefit, several games came out this year that are bad on a quad core and some titles like R6S are super good at leveraging more threads. Quad cores are indeed on their way out as the quintessential CPU configuration.

[EvaFrisson]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

that's generally the main benefit, several games came out this year that are bad on a quad core and some titles like R6S are super good at leveraging more threads. Quad cores are indeed on their way out as the quintessential CPU configuration.

Thanks for the help. Looks like its gonna be the hexacore life for me.

[Mister Woof]

51 minutes ago, EvaFrisson said:

What am I doing that is going to require 16 threads? Also the 3700X costs over $500 in Aus, and the 3600x is still more expensive than the 9600K. I'm looking to spend less not more...

Given equal IPC and frequency, similar chips with 8/16 are performing better at many games than even 6/12. Even 12/24 is showing benefits.

 

You can get by with 6/6 for a little while but I personally wouldn't buy it. It's almost like throwing money away.

[Zberg]

If you have a nice 2070s sitting there, you want to take advantage of that performance.  You are certainly at risk of bottlenecking it if not now, then in the near future.

 

I would only recommend a 4 core for entry level GPU's (gtx 1060 or less, rx 590 or less).  It works great as an esports machine, and can play older games and even some of the newer ones (not perfectly, but can do it), but if you have the firepower to push some high frame rates/settings on AAA titles (as you do with a 2070s) you are going to be bottlenecked in the near future if not right now.

 

Im not sure if price is or is not a factor (you kind of said both things above).  I feel like a 8700k would be a very nice pairing with the 2070s.  That combo would hold up for some time.

[EvaFrisson]

3 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

Given equal IPC and frequency, similar chips with 8/16 are performing better at many games than even 6/12. Even 12/24 is showing benefits.

 

You can get by with 6/6 for a little while but I personally wouldn't buy it. It's almost like throwing money away.

Well then how about going with a R5 3600 paired with a B350 Aorus Pro? I have no interest in going X570 as I'm extremely averse to active cooling on MBs.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

3 minutes ago, EvaFrisson said:

Well then how about going with a R5 3600 paired with a B350 Aorus Pro?

nothing wrong, just typo, b450 is 1 yr newer than b350, also needs bios update with 1st / 2nd gen chip

[EvaFrisson]

2 hours ago, Zberg said:

If you have a nice 2070s sitting there, you want to take advantage of that performance.  You are certainly at risk of bottlenecking it if not now, then in the near future.

 

I would only recommend a 4 core for entry level GPU's (gtx 1060 or less, rx 590 or less).  It works great as an esports machine, and can play older games and even some of the newer ones (not perfectly, but can do it), but if you have the firepower to push some high frame rates/settings on AAA titles (as you do with a 2070s) you are going to be bottlenecked in the near future if not right now.

 

Im not sure if price is or is not a factor (you kind of said both things above).  I feel like a 8700k would be a very nice pairing with the 2070s.  That combo would hold up for some time.

Price wasn't a factor when choosing between the i5 and the i3 as the i5 is within my budget. However If I am able to get similar performance for $100 less it seems like a no brainier to go with the i3.  Judging from the feedback I've though that's not actually the smartest idea ever.

[EvaFrisson]

3 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

nothing wrong, just typo, b450 is 1 yr newer than b350, also needs bios update with 1st / 2nd gen chip

oh yeah, whoops, B450...