USB headers help

[Molesy]

Hey guys,

 

I have a friend that has Asus X299 Sage board. now he did not realise but from some reason Asus does not have any USB2.0 ports on this board. It only has a USB3.0 and USB3.1 ports. 

 

So he needs to connect the AIO controller header, the Front USB 3.0 and 2.0 ports. What would be the best way to achieve this. as all the connectors need to be low profile. 

 

current options I can see are. 

For usb 2.0: get a USB3.0 to USB 2.0 connector and then use the NZXT USB hub or similar to get multiple USB 2.0 ports for the front USB and AIO etc

For USB 3.0 get a USB 3.1 to USB 3.0 connector and the connect the USB 3.0 to that. 

The only issue is i cant find any low profile USB 3.1 header that would allow me to install a GPU as well. 

 

for the USB 2.0 

Motherbaord to https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-2.0-9%2dPin-Male-to-USB-3.0-20%2dPin-Female-Low-Profile-(10cm).html

and then to  https://www.moddiy.com/products/9Pin-USB-2.0-Header-Male-to-4-Female-Extension-Adapter-Port-Multiplier.html or https://www.nzxt.com/products/internal-usb-hub

 

For USB 3.0 

Motherboard to https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.1-Type-E-Gen2-Front-Panel-Header-to-USB-3.0-20-Pin-Adapter-Cable.html

But need a low profile one. any ideas where i might be able to get one ?

 

Open to other suggestion as well to get all the ports working. 

 

[Molesy]

[Dujith]

Something like this? hard to find anything usb 3.0/1 internal.

https://www.sabrent.com/product/HB-INTR/5-port-internal-usb-3-0-hub-controller/

[Molesy]

2 minutes ago, Dujith said:

Something like this? hard to find anything usb 3.0/1 internal.

https://www.sabrent.com/product/HB-INTR/5-port-internal-usb-3-0-hub-controller/

humm that is a possible solution. I would still need to get a low profile USB 3.0 extension cable but then I could connect the USB 3.0 directly to this and then get a USB 3 to 2 converters for the remaining USB2.0 devices. 

[Dujith]

Like a right angle USB 3.0 Header:

[Molesy]

yea that could work as well. the one i saw looked very tall even though 90* 

[Molesy]

On 10/10/2019 at 12:56 AM, Dujith said:

Something like this? hard to find anything usb 3.0/1 internal.

https://www.sabrent.com/product/HB-INTR/5-port-internal-usb-3-0-hub-controller/

i purchased that. but now if i connect that to the MB i cant boot. I just get code 00 on boot. no POST. If i remove it i can Post no issues. any ideas ?

[Dujith]

On 10/14/2019 at 12:07 PM, Molesy said:

i purchased that. but now if i connect that to the MB i cant boot. I just get code 00 on boot. no POST. If i remove it i can Post no issues. any ideas ?

How did you connect it? looking at it you should connect the MB header to the "INPUT" and you should power it.

Does it do this without anything connected to it? (the hub)

[mariushm]

You could just get some headers and move the pins from the usb 2 connector to the usb 3 header.

 

You can buy a kit of housings and pins (though you won't need them) for 4$ : https://www.ebay.com/itm/620pcs-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Pin-Header-Connector-Housing-Kit-and-M-F-Crimp-Pins/192387193176

Or if you're impatient, you can buy only the sizes you want from a distributor of electronic components : https://www.digikey.com/short/pn99qc

 

The USB 3.1 gen 1 / usb 3.0 pinout is this :

 

The USB 2 headers are like this :

 

 

As you can see, you have two vertical rows, each for one usb 2 port / device. Same is for USB 3, it's just that one side of the connector is offset by one so there's no change of you inserting the connector the wrong way.

USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.0, the four wire in USB 2.0 exist in the USB 3.0 header.

 

So all you have to do is get a 9pin or 10 pin housing and then use a needle to lift the lock from every pin in your pump connector, and insert those pins in your own housing.

The four wires go like this:

+5v goes to Vbus

GND goes to GND  (either one, usually one close to P#_D- makes most sense)

P#+ goes to P#_D+

P#- goes to P#_D-

 

The SSTX and SSRX pins in the header can be left alone, unused, those are the wires used for high speed (5gbps), and they're not used by usb 2.0 devices.

 

 

[Molesy]

On 10/16/2019 at 5:57 AM, Dujith said:

How did you connect it? looking at it you should connect the MB header to the "INPUT" and you should power it.

Does it do this without anything connected to it? (the hub)

Found out i dont need the power connector to the hub. just the direct USB cable. thouse some of the ports are not very secure or maybe the adapter cable from USB3.0 to usb 2.0 ports are not as good. it all works now. the only issue is that the device manager reports it as a unknown device even though it all works ! odd

On 10/16/2019 at 6:27 AM, mariushm said:

You could just get some headers and move the pins from the usb 2 connector to the usb 3 header.

 

You can buy a kit of housings and pins (though you won't need them) for 4$ : https://www.ebay.com/itm/620pcs-Dupont-Wire-Jumper-Pin-Header-Connector-Housing-Kit-and-M-F-Crimp-Pins/192387193176

Or if you're impatient, you can buy only the sizes you want from a distributor of electronic components : https://www.digikey.com/short/pn99qc

 

The USB 3.1 gen 1 / usb 3.0 pinout is this :

 

The USB 2 headers are like this :

 

 

As you can see, you have two vertical rows, each for one usb 2 port / device. Same is for USB 3, it's just that one side of the connector is offset by one so there's no change of you inserting the connector the wrong way.

USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.0, the four wire in USB 2.0 exist in the USB 3.0 header.

 

So all you have to do is get a 9pin or 10 pin housing and then use a needle to lift the lock from every pin in your pump connector, and insert those pins in your own housing.

The four wires go like this:

+5v goes to Vbus

GND goes to GND  (either one, usually one close to P#_D- makes most sense)

P#+ goes to P#_D+

P#- goes to P#_D-

 

The SSTX and SSRX pins in the header can be left alone, unused, those are the wires used for high speed (5gbps), and they're not used by usb 2.0 devices.

 

 

thanks a good suggestion but i needed a quick fix and the above solution worked for me thanks !