First new rig i a long while.

[Doogs]

Hi im planning on building a new rig for the first time since 2012 and the old rig is at its last leg and i didn't keep up that much with what's good or not but i have picked parts that i think would work but i would be happy if i could get some help with this.

 

CPU:AMD RYZEN 5 3600X
CPU Cooler:AMD Wraith Spire (stock)
Motherboard: ASUS TUF B450 Plus Gaming
Memory:Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2x8GB 2666MHz RAM
Storage: KINGSTON A2000 M.2 NVMe SSD 500GB and i will salvage the hdd 1TB and an new extra ssd 500 GB from my old rig
Video Card: Asus Turbo RTX 2070 Super 8G EVO
Case:Corsair 270R ATX mid tower case
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750 80+ gold
Operating System: Windows 10   its about 1250 currently. i have some wiggle room on budget about 1300 US Dollars   oh ya i forgot i mainly use two 1080p monitors at the moment will probably upgrade down the line and i am mostly a gamer but i do use it for other more demanding tasks.    does this look like a build that might keep me satisfied for a while?

[emosun]

I'm not noticing any issues with it other than maybe the cpu cooler lacking but just run the fan at 100% and it'll do fine

[SPARTAN VI]

CPU: I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 (non-X) and use the $40-50 savings on a nicer cooler (e.g. Hyper 212 Black Edition). The Wraith Spire included in Zen 2 is all aluminum (versus the copper vapor chamber from Zen 1 packages) so the fan needs to run much faster (and louder) to maintain the same thermal performance as its predecessor.

RAM: Ryzen performance scales really well with faster memory, with a price:performance sweet spot right around DDR4-3600. You should be able to find a nice 16GB DDR4-3600 kit for about $80 USD. 

[Sorenson]

If you’re going for b450 MSI has the highest rated motherboards. Specifically the b450 tomahawk. You should go with the ram that is 3200-3600mhz for ryzen 3000 series. When choosing between the 3600 and 3600x, I would go with the 3600x if it’s only about $20 more because of the higher stock clock speed and better cooler. If it’s around $40 more go with the 3600 and an aftermarket cooler.

[Doogs]

12 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

If you’re going for b450 MSI has the highest rated motherboards. Specifically the b450 tomahawk. You should go with the ram that is 3200-3600mhz for ryzen 3000 series. When choosing between the 3600 and 3600x, I would go with the 3600x if it’s only about $20 more because of the higher stock clock speed and better cooler. If it’s around $40 more go with the 3600 and an aftermarket cooler.

 

27 minutes ago, SPARTAN VI said:

CPU: I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 (non-X) and use the $40-50 savings on a nicer cooler (e.g. Hyper 212 Black Edition). The Wraith Spire included in Zen 2 is all aluminum (versus the copper vapor chamber from Zen 1 packages) so the fan needs to run much faster (and louder) to maintain the same thermal performance as its predecessor.

RAM: Ryzen performance scales really well with faster memory, with a price:performance sweet spot right around DDR4-3600. You should be able to find a nice 16GB DDR4-3600 kit for about $80 USD. 

okay i do like MSI have had that on my current rig so i will check that out, aftermarket cooler seems to be the concensus so i will check that out, if i have the budget for it should i go for the 3600X and an aftermarket cooler or is the X version unnecessary? 

and faster ram will check that too.

[Doogs]

is it overkill to add liquid cooling?

[Sorenson]

1 minute ago, Doogs said:

is it overkill to add liquid cooling?

So some people say go with the 3600 over the 3600x and just over clock the 3600. The problem I see is that there is limited over clicking head room out of the box on ryzen, so I think the 3600x is the safer choice - especially if you don’t want to OC manually. 

 

As far as liquid cooling, ryzen CPUs perform better the cooler they are. Water cooling performs about as well as high end air cooling but costs more. Some reasons to go with liquid cooling, are if you like the look of it, don’t want the extra weight on your cpu socket, or have a case with poor airflow.

[Doogs]

1 minute ago, Sorenson said:

So some people say go with the 3600 over the 3600x and just over clock the 3600. The problem I see is that there is limited over clicking head room out of the box on ryzen, so I think the 3600x is the safer choice - especially if you don’t want to OC manually. 

 

As far as liquid cooling, ryzen CPUs perform better the cooler they are. Water cooling performs about as well as high end air cooling but costs more. Some reasons to go with liquid cooling, are if you like the look of it, don’t want the extra weight on your cpu socket, or have a case with poor airflow.

okay my case should have enough airflow, i have heard a 120 mm watercooling is kind meh and i should go for 240 if i go watercooling. but would a FSP Windale 4 be enough cause i do have a friend with a spare one? and weight on my cpu socket what can be bad with that? is it not made to hold some weight?

[Sorenson]

8 minutes ago, Doogs said:

okay my case should have enough airflow, i have heard a 120 mm watercooling is kind meh and i should go for 240 if i go watercooling. but would a FSP Windale 4 be enough cause i do have a friend with a spare one? and weight on my cpu socket what can be bad with that? is it not made to hold some weight?

That cpu cooler looks pretty similar to the hyper 212 evo so it should be fine. The only reason to worry about the weight on the socket is if you move the computer around a lot. Otherwise it should be fine. Also that cpu cooler looks pretty light, it’s more like dark rock pro 4 type cpu coolers that might be starting to push it.

[SPARTAN VI]

33 minutes ago, Doogs said:

 

okay i do like MSI have had that on my current rig so i will check that out, aftermarket cooler seems to be the concensus so i will check that out, if i have the budget for it should i go for the 3600X and an aftermarket cooler or is the X version unnecessary? 

and faster ram will check that too.

IMO, between the R5 3600 and 3600X, one of them needn't even exist. They perform within 1% of each other, so I'd always vote for the cheaper option if there's a significant price difference. In my area, the R5 3600X commands a $40 premium, which can open up some budget wiggle room elsewhere or just invest in a much much nicer cooler.

 

 

 

[Doogs]

hey guys thanks for the info and on the very fast answers updated my build and  wondering if this seems better.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$34.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$115.88 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card	$509.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400 Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$97.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair CXM V2 (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$93.88 @ OutletPC
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1322.18
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1292.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-12 14:50 EDT-0400